The other point is Souness was a tough B**tard....IMO that element has always been missing from Gerrard's game...hate to mention him, but look at Keane, borderline psychopath (top player!)....again IMO to win the league it's essential to master the art of winning ugly, Hollywood passes, Hollywood tackles and Hollywood goals is all very well for Steven Gerrard BUT to win the midfield, win the game, win the league sometimes THERE NEEDS TO BE A PLAN B, and it's not necessarily from Hollywood.....