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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #210 on: July 04, 2012, 06:18:59 PM »
He's had a very hit and miss career so far. It'll be interesting to see if he hits the ground running and keeps up his 'Swansea form' or ends up like he did at Hoffenheim, where he came back from injury and sunk without a trace (the reason he was at Swansea in the first place) after starting off with a bang at Hoffenheim.

Interestingly, even after his good half season at Swansea, Hoffenheim made no attempt to keep him. Makes you wonder why.

Rodgers may decide to keep buys to a minimum, instead concentrating on clearing the decks and getting the wage bill down.
He's already got a squad of players he's got to work with to get them to learn a new style of play without having too many editions settling into the club in addition to learning on the playing side.
Pre-season is going to be dis-jointed with the Euros, the Olympics and the early start to the season with us playing UEFA Cup qualifiers on 2nd & 9th August.
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« Reply #211 on: July 04, 2012, 09:48:01 PM »
I'd be a very very happy man if we could get Adam Johnson. He'd be great for us. Trust me.

Adam Johnson is shine-a-light. You talk about Stewart Downing being shine-a-light. Well Johnson is shine-a-light plus has zero game intelligence. Man C will want stupid money. Rather spend that cash on a Muniain or a Navas.

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« Reply #212 on: July 04, 2012, 09:51:11 PM »
P.s. Apart from the £70,000 per week Sigurdsson will get a spurs, I know for a fact one of the attractions of going to spurs was that in the future he will be able to play for his boyhood club Man U.

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« Reply #213 on: July 04, 2012, 10:36:40 PM »
P.s. Apart from the £70,000 per week Sigurdsson will get a spurs, I know for a fact one of the attractions of going to spurs was that in the future he will be able to play for his boyhood club Man U.

Interesting that you mention that, as I had wondered, though discarded the idea, that his initial enthusiasm to play for Rodgers seeming to then turn into apparent reluctance, had anything to do with his Manc fandom.

The longer this has gone on the more it just seems like a bullet, at least in our case, has been dodged. I'm sure he'll prove to be a valuable addition for Spurs, but because it's Spurs and not us, and we wouldn't have enjoyed the same benefit.

Seems like Levy has put him right at the very limit of Spurs' payscale. Is he really that big a player? 
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #214 on: July 04, 2012, 11:08:50 PM »
P.s. Apart from the £70,000 per week Sigurdsson will get a spurs, I know for a fact one of the attractions of going to spurs was that in the future he will be able to play for his boyhood club Man U.

In an interview hes using AVB as one of the reasons he joined the club. Thats even though he was reported to have chosen Spurs two weeks ago and AVB was appointed this week.

Hes obviously got faith in own ability and if it doesnt work out at Spurs I really hope hes never given the opportunity to join us again.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #215 on: July 04, 2012, 11:13:17 PM »
Would you take this guy into your team for a year? Sky are reporting his contract has been cancelled. It goes against FSGs supposed recruitment policy but I would have him in the team for a season if he could prove his fitness.

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/seriea/story/diego-forlan-to-leave-inter-milan-in-summer-070412

Diego Forlan will leave Inter Milan this summer, according to the club's technical director, Marco Branca.

The Uruguay international joined the Nerazzurri last summer from Atletico Madrid but endured a frustrating injury-plagued campaign.

Brazilian side Internacional have expressed an interest in signing Forlan provided the striker terminates his contract with Inter, which runs until June 2013.

"With regards to Forlan we are close to agreeing to cancel his contract," Branca said to Gazzetta dello Sport.

The 33-year-old Forlan, who is also a reported target of Corinthians, scored two goals in 22 appearances for Inter last season.

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« Reply #216 on: July 04, 2012, 11:24:12 PM »
In an interview hes using AVB as one of the reasons he joined the club. Thats even though he was reported to have chosen Spurs two weeks ago and AVB was appointed this week.

Hes obviously got faith in own ability and if it doesnt work out at Spurs I really hope hes never given the opportunity to join us again.

Funny that wasn't it Juan. He was reported to be thinking about Spurs long before AVB was even linked with the job.

Anyone would think that it was AVB or Spurs that had rescued him from his Hoffenheim Hell, yet curiously neither Spurs or Chelsea were even linked with him last January.
Funny how a large contract seems to mess with the memory. 
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #217 on: July 04, 2012, 11:29:53 PM »
United are already being credited with lining up a bid for RVP.

Whats worrying for us is that Arsenal can provide Champions League football and its still not enough to keep their top player. Unless top players are winning trophies every season and earning 200k a week are they going to continue to leave the likes of Arsenal, ourselves and Spurs and opt to sign for the likes of City.


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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #218 on: July 04, 2012, 11:37:26 PM »
Funny that wasn't it Juan. He was reported to be thinking about Spurs long before AVB was even linked with the job.

Anyone would think that it was AVB or Spurs that had rescued him from his Hoffenheim Hell, yet curiously neither Spurs or Chelsea were even linked with him last January.
Funny how a large contract seems to mess with the memory.

Its hard not to feel a little bitter but as Dude says maybe Sigurssons a bullet dodged. Listening to his reasoning he is clearly motivated by money because ultimately hes chosen a managerless club over us. He was joining Spurs no matter who was in charge.

What hurts though is that it shows how far we have fallen as a club. Rodgers job is massive and Im sceptical about the financial backing hes going to receive.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #219 on: July 04, 2012, 11:44:49 PM »
Its hard not to feel a little bitter but as Dude says maybe Sigurssons a bullet dodged. Listening to his reasoning he is clearly motivated by money because ultimately hes chosen a managerless club over us. He was joining Spurs no matter who was in charge.

What hurts though is that it shows how far we have fallen as a club. Rodgers job is massive and Im sceptical about the financial backing hes going to receive.

i think he's keeping his powder dry, Juan.

I saw a quote from Brendan on Monday, where he said to pay no heed to all the players he is being linked to (he pretty much said the lads we were being linked to, were journeymen).

he said finding 3 or 4 players to enhance the group that he already has, was not an easy job.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #220 on: July 05, 2012, 10:05:24 PM »
Its hard not to feel a little bitter but as Dude says maybe Sigurssons a bullet dodged. Listening to his reasoning he is clearly motivated by money because ultimately hes chosen a managerless club over us. He was joining Spurs no matter who was in charge.

What hurts though is that it shows how far we have fallen as a club. Rodgers job is massive and Im sceptical about the financial backing hes going to receive.

An individual's character flaw of greed shouldn't be used to judge us with. I agree with your other point. I'm not sure there will be the required amount of finance available.
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« Reply #221 on: July 06, 2012, 04:55:02 PM »
The fact that we wont have much finance Id love to see this guy be given the chance to be heavily involved. Technically hes a quality player, his attitude is good and I think with the lack of quality alternatives we need to try and integrate this guy and his experience into the team / squad. In fairness he could have taken an easy gig back at West Ham or the likes in London but he went to Lille and has got game time under his belt. I hope Rodgers can find room for him because for me hes far more deserving than players like Spearing.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/cole-i-want-to-prove-myself

Joe Cole today spoke of his determination to show Liverpool fans exactly what he's capable of this season after admitting: "I have something to prove to them."

Having spent the 2011-12 campaign on loan at French club Lille, the 30-year-old returned to Melwood earlier this week to begin pre-season training with the Reds under new manager Brendan Rodgers.

Cole is relishing the prospect of being a part of an exciting new era at Anfield - and insists he's eager to show supporters he has plenty to offer to the cause.

"It's great to be back," the playmaker told Liverpoolfc.com. "It's a clean slate for everyone, so I'm delighted to be back. Training has been good - and it's nice to be back in England and nice to be back in Liverpool."

Cole was one of Europe's most wanted footballers two summers ago when he left Chelsea on a free transfer.

Liverpool beat competition from a number of other elite clubs to land his signature, though a red card on his Barclays Premier League debut for the club against Arsenal set the tone for a season disrupted by injury.

Asked whether he felt he had something to prove to Liverpool fans, Cole replied: "Of course. I don't want to leave Liverpool one day having not been a success here or having left something here. I want to make an imprint at the club.

"I've been a success at West Ham, Chelsea and Lille - I don't want people to be able to say that I haven't here.

"I'd like to be given the opportunity to play, learn and improve, and join this great team. It's a great group and I would like to be involved in this team and really push on."

Cole continued: "If I get given a chance to play, I'll always give my best and give everything I've got to the team. I came here for one reason - because I wanted to be a part of the resurgence of this club.

"It excited me coming here because I knew what a big club it was with a rich history and I wanted to be part of something. I still do. The fire still burns in me to be a part of it - I want to be part of this club moving in the right direction.

"Obviously when I came here, I was sent off in my first game and had a few little niggly injury problems. I think I only played something like 700-odd minutes of Premier League football in that season, so it was a tough season for me - by far and away the worst season in my career because I didn't get going.

"I'd like to improve on that. I'd like to be a part of this great club, this team and everything about it - the city and everything."

Cole's time at Lille was undeniably a success, as he notched four goals and several assists in 27 appearances to help Les Dogues secure a Champions League berth.

The Liverpool No.10 believes the time spent in Ligue 1 has ensured he's returned to Melwood a better all-around footballer.

He said: "I loved it (in France). It was a risk and a gamble to come away from the Premier League - I'd never been away (before), but I went with my family to experience something new.

"I loved the football and we had a successful season. The prerogative was for us to finish third and we managed that. It was a good group of lads and a good team at Lille.

"I'd always wanted to play abroad and sometimes you think the chance to do so at a good level may have passed by, but it was great and I really enjoyed the experience."

Cole continued: "I would hope (I've returned to Liverpool a better player) because I am all about that. I love my football, I love training and I love learning - and I did learn a lot out there. It opened my eyes to a new way of approaching football and the continental way. I really loved the style of play we had - not many teams in the Premier League use it.

"I'm always trying to learn, pick up new things and improve myself. What else are you going to do? I strive to get better every day."

After the conclusion of his spell in France, Cole spent time in Spain to recharge ahead of his return to Merseyside.

With the post-season break now over for many, Cole joined his Liverpool teammates at Melwood on Wednesday to begin preparations for 2012-13 - and he admits to feeling right back at home.

"I've slipped straight back in as though I've never been gone," he said. "I've got a lot of friends here and I love all of the people at the club. Sometimes you can get a bit of a feeling coming back to a club that maybe things have changed, but I've just come straight back in.

"What I did miss in France was being around the banter and the English players and everyone around the (training) ground.

"The one thing you miss as a player if you haven't got it is just having a little bit of banter every day. I'm loving being able to do that again.

"I can't wait for the new season. I've had the longest rest I've ever had off in my career, but I started getting itchy feet after about three weeks!

"There is nothing better than being a footballer. There are millions of men who'd love to be in my position - and I genuinely just love it (being a footballer).

"People used to say as you get older, you get other things in your life such as your family and football becomes less important, but for me I love it more and more. I can't get enough - I dread the day I have to hang my boots up!"

Cole may have only been back at Liverpool for a matter of days, but the England international believes he can already sense what could be the start of something special.

He reflected: "It feels different. You have to remember, I've only been at Liverpool one season, really, but this is the third manager I've played for. It does feel different this time - it feels like it's ready to go. "

"The fans will stick with us and we can do it all together - we can get the club back to where it should be."

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« Reply #222 on: July 06, 2012, 09:16:55 PM »
I'd rather we paid him to play for us than contribute towards his salary for someone else to get any benefit.

Hopefully maturity and his year abroad will allow him to focus his undoubted talent and be productive.

Depending on where Gerrard plays but if it's central of the three then Cole could get plenty of time playing there each time Gerrard breaks down.

We've lost Kuyt, Gerrard doesn't have the true discipline needed to play deep or the fitness to make forward runs from deep and get himself back in position and one of his most productive seasons was when he played wide right.

So that's wide right sorted, just some cover needed.  :D
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« Reply #223 on: July 06, 2012, 09:32:38 PM »
I'd rather Rodgers spent nothing this Summer than go blundering in buying and selling Rednapp style, trying to make a name for himself, before he's seen what he can do with what we've got. Some players respond better to some managers than others.
Maybe he could be a Raffa to Torres with some of the squad.

I'm not buying into the idea he's some sort of 'super manager' or that he can make a radley from a curley tailed creature's aural orifice but just that he may get one or two playing in a way or to a style that suits them better than any previous manager they've played under at Liverpool.
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« Reply #224 on: July 07, 2012, 01:52:17 PM »
We are being linked with an interesting young trio. Its hard to tell which is true, false or agent talk but one thing is for sure I doubt we are going for all 3.

Caughtoffside are reporting from a number of twitter sources that Liverpool will sign Gaston Ramirez of Bologna at the weekend. Dont really know much about this guy other than hes Uruguayan, young and attack minded.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/07/07/liverpool-set-to-complete-15-8m-signing-of-serie-a-youngster-gaston-ramirez/

The Telegraph are reporting we are close to signing Fabio Borini. Dont know anything about this guy either. You would question though why either of the two italian teams who co own the guy would let him go for 7 million if he was any use.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9382716/Liverpool-manager-Brendan-Rodgers-steps-up-negotiations-to-make-Roma-striker-Fabio-Borini-his-first-signing.html

Lastly we are being linked to Sturridge this weekend. Decent player, potential to be very good but not a favourite of Di Matteo if last season is anything to go by. Ive a feeling his agent is attempting to drum up interest in this one. Actually it could be that goal.com are having a slow news day.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/07/07/3225281/liverpool-leading-tottenham-in-race-to-sign-unsettled

Just seeing one more. Sky are reporting that Junior Hoillets agent has been contacted by five premier league clubs and Liverpool was one of them. For whatever reason Boroussia Munchengladbach (excsuse the spelling) are still favourites to sign him.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7879869/Germans-still-in-pole-for-Hoilett