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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #735 on: September 01, 2012, 10:02:05 PM »
Quote from: Tes on September 01, 2012, 09:43:49 PM
It used to be the title we aimed for, then the top four, now it feels like a challenge for a European place is the height of the club's ambition. And that's if all goes to plan.

yes.

we have been continually downgrading our expectations since Moores sold up some 5 years ago.

the Rafa era feels like one golden summer in the midst of a sea of sh.ite

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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #736 on: September 02, 2012, 11:35:10 PM »
No matter how desperate our situation is last thing I want to see us doing is making Owen feel like is coming to the rescue by signing him up on a free.

The guy in an injury prone mercenary who doesnt deserve another chance at this club. I refuse to support him if he re-signs for the club.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #737 on: September 03, 2012, 03:01:55 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9517255/Liverpool-webchat-with-Chris-Bascombe.html

from today's Liverpool WebChat.

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Surely the scouting staff are called into question over the failure to find value-for-money and re-sale potential in a striker. Dempsey and Sturridge could have been picked by any fan. As could Downing, Carroll and Adam before them. Where is the specialist knowledge? Everton have pulled this achievement off twice recently, getting two mid-20s internationals in for roughly £5m each. It seems that LFC are way behind in this crucial area of football expertise. Do you think that this needs to be urgently addressed?
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Chris Bascombe replies: "I've been saying this issue has need addressing for over 20 years. There should be far more transparency over how and why players are bought. Under successive Liverpool managers, I've seen certain agents and agencies favoured, numerous players arriving with the same representatives and every new manager coming in absolutely slaughtering the recruitment process of his predecessor. We go around in circles at Liverpool FC. I've said it before and it needs repeating. Liverpool have not won the league for two decades for one reason and one reason alone. They've wasted the money they have on poor signings. FSG are trying to learn from this but they've not covered themselves in glory so far."


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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #738 on: September 03, 2012, 03:03:48 PM »
that is a very very interesting insight from Chris Bascombe.

might help explain some of our limited recruiting procedures (I am being deliberately careful with my words).
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #739 on: September 03, 2012, 06:09:06 PM »
or simply put - a lack of continuity - rip it up and start again - it's only use is to be a song title.

Rodgers has tried to change too much, too quickly. Evolve.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #740 on: September 03, 2012, 06:15:28 PM »
Quote from: Tes on September 03, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
or simply put - a lack of continuity - rip it up and start again - it's only use is to be a song title.

Rodgers has tried to change too much, too quickly. Evolve.

yes, constant change is the road to ruin.

when we dominated football, there was a distinct lack of major change occurring.  Instead we evolved slowly. 

It really is quite simple.  You select a top manager, and you give him the time and the resources to do the job.

Sadly we have not got top people, at any level, in the club. 

Thus we have this continous process of finger-pointing, public statements, scapegoats, sackings, woeful decision making, and constant change.   And this madness takes the club lower down the league and is a massive drain on our finances.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #741 on: September 03, 2012, 06:32:24 PM »
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/09/scraping-barrell-which-of-these-28-free.html

28 free agents (strikers)

looking like Marcus Bent might be the best of the worst.

do we think the unthinkable.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #742 on: September 03, 2012, 08:24:05 PM »
Quote from: the dude abides on September 03, 2012, 06:32:24 PM
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/09/scraping-barrell-which-of-these-28-free.html

28 free agents (strikers)

looking like Marcus Bent might be the best of the worst.

do we think the unthinkable.

It has to be Carlo Costly.  :D  "Just another mercenary Johnny Foreigner".  ;D
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #743 on: September 03, 2012, 08:51:39 PM »
Quote from: Tes on September 03, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
rip it up and start again - it's only use is to be a song title.
Reckon Brenny's an Elvis fan !
(didn't he do that thing with all the Swansea fans dressing up as him?)

Anyway, Here's "Rip it Up"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZPpd8-pbm4

Henry, more of a Muse fan (with the Gothy girlfriend half his age!)

"Let's start over again
Why can't we start it over again
Just let us start it over again
And we'll be good
This time we'll get it, get it right
It's our last chance to forgive ourselves"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsi_Cy119kg

Must be playing on repeat in his office ROFL (Sorry, I couldn't resist  :) )

Feck, we probably need to get behind both the owners and the manger,
we're only hurting ourselves!
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #744 on: September 04, 2012, 11:19:00 PM »
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #745 on: September 04, 2012, 11:38:31 PM »
Quote from: Juan on September 04, 2012, 11:19:00 PM
If true this doesnt make good reading for the harmony of the squad. It also shows Rodgers desperation to sign Clint.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2198396/Brendan-Rodgers-tried-swap-Stewart-Downing-Jose-Enrique-Jordan-Henderson-Clint-Dempsey.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DNeil%2BMoxley

Given the lack of cash available, signing a player that can comfortably play two or three positions offered an increased level of flexibility.
Hopefully the players involved have had their card marked and respond in the right way. If not, it really is bad news, given they can't easily be 'rested' as the numbers don't allow it.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #746 on: September 04, 2012, 11:57:34 PM »
Quote from: Tes on September 04, 2012, 11:38:31 PM
Given the lack of cash available, signing a player that can comfortably play two or three positions offered an increased level of flexibility.
Hopefully the players involved have had their card marked and respond in the right way. If not, it really is bad news, given they can't easily be 'rested' as the numbers don't allow it.

Agreed Tes nows not the time to sulk.

According to one of Rory Smiths liverpool supporting sources in Australia, Daniel Carb, who seems to work for fox sport australia, liverpool have bid for del pierro and hope to scupper the sydney move.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #747 on: September 05, 2012, 12:41:33 AM »
Quote from: Juan on September 04, 2012, 11:57:34 PM
According to one of Rory Smiths liverpool supporting sources in Australia, Daniel Carb, who seems to work for fox sport australia, liverpool have bid for del pierro and hope to scupper the sydney move.

But isn't that one of the expensive short term fixes Henry alluded to that they are trying to avoid. There really isn't any free agents (and most of them are for a reason) who is good enough. However little we pay them we are still overpaying.

Swansea got Michu for £2m, Everton Meirelles for £5.3M, we got Borini for a lot more than that and then play him out of position.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #748 on: September 05, 2012, 01:37:01 PM »
was reading overnight that we are in for Del Piero, the ex Juventus bloke.

he is only 37 years old.

this is how far we have sunk, as a club.

why not see if Kevin Keegan is available.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window
« Reply #749 on: September 05, 2012, 02:45:39 PM »
Quote from: the dude abides on September 05, 2012, 01:37:01 PM
was reading overnight that we are in for Del Piero, the ex Juventus bloke.

he is only 37 years old.

this is how far we have sunk, as a club.

why not see if Kevin Keegan is available.

it could have been worse though dude...it could have been owen...i will always look at stoke in a different light...
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