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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #480 on: October 08, 2012, 09:34:32 PM »
But it should be a pop...3 of the most experienced players in premier league history were let go this summer.

The gospel of the anfield road forum...(to be added on to by other wise sages)

The team comes before the individual...
Pass and move..
keep your best players...
don't buy sh*te...

A 29 year old for example, may 'only' give us 3 years and then have to be 'released for nowt' but it's what he gives directly on the pitch (the visible contribution) and to younger players in terms of advice and an example to watch and learn from. How many times do you hear a current 'senior' player praise a former senior player for their help and advice both before breaking into the team and whilst 'finding their way' as a first teamer.

exactly, Barticus and Tes.

this is not rocket science.

Top technical players like Mereless and Maxi, do not grow on trees.  Top pros, like Kuyt, are invaluable re experience.....both in breaking down opposing defences, but also in passing on knowledge to youngsters.

To let those senior players leave, and never replace them, is tantamount to madness.  That is why I have labelled this past summer as the club being downsized.

It would be game-changing, to have been able to have brought on the likes of Kuyt, Bellamy and Maxi, against Stoke.

But, and I have said it often enough, we have inadequate people all across the club, as owners, as chief executive, as manager, and within the playing staff.

The yanks have absolutely no idea how to run a top football club.  And Rodgers is not far behind them.

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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #481 on: October 09, 2012, 09:46:15 AM »
only 32 per cent of shots by Liverpool players have been on target this season.

That is the lowest percentage in the premiership......of all 20 teams, that is the lowest.

sub-titles for the ard of understanding - we couldn't hit an elephant's ar.se with a banjo.

this is why I have been crying out for the coaches at Anfield, to demand that Suarez stop shooting, and wasting all  our opportunities.
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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #482 on: October 13, 2012, 05:20:58 PM »
Here's our fixture list 'til the end of the year. I think we need
to stop talking about:

1.) Young players
2.) How great the players are
3.) The System
4.) Refereeing decisions
5.) 4th
6.) The January transfer window.

and focus on keeping clean sheets (given our current goal scoring options!)
and putting together results in football matches. Results & clean sheets should
be the mantra coming from the gaffer.

October 2012     
Liverpool V Reading  20 Oct
      
Liverpool V Anzhi Makhachkala 25 Oct

     
Everton V Liverpool  28 Oct
     
League Cup - Fourth Round 
Liverpool V Swansea  31 Oct
     
November 2012   
Liverpool V Newcastle  4 Nov
     
Anzhi Makhachkala V Liverpool 8 Nov
     
Chelsea V Liverpool  11 Nov
     
Liverpool V Wigan  17 Nov
     
Liverpool V Young Boys 22 Nov
     
Swansea V Liverpool  25 Nov
     
Tottenham V Liverpool  28 Nov
     
December 2012   
Liverpool V Southampton  1 Dec
     
Udinese V Liverpool Thu 6 Dec
     
West Ham V Liverpool 9 Dec
     
Liverpool V Aston Villa 15 Dec
     
Liverpool V Fulham  22 Dec
     
Stoke V Liverpool  26 Dec
     
QPR V Liverpool  30 Dec

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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #483 on: October 13, 2012, 07:32:49 PM »
for me, 40 points cannot come soon enough.
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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #484 on: October 17, 2012, 05:20:27 PM »
for me, 40 points cannot come soon enough.

Hold that thought, apparently Reina was injured (hamstring) during half-time for Spain.  ???

http://uk.soccerway.com/news/2012/October/17/reina-to-undergo-tests-on-injury/

Can't find too much more so hopefully it's nothing serious.
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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #485 on: October 19, 2012, 12:09:12 AM »
I presume everyone thinks Reading is an easy 3 points (it
sort of has to be if we have any ambition this season!) but
i think the game presents its own set of challenges with
the England lads Johnson & Stevie (I presume Shelvey is
still banned?) delayed in Poland and Luis & Coates halfway
round the world playing at altitude.

Given that we have Hiddink's team coming up in the Europa
league and then Everton, I think we need to be careful that
we dispatch Reading i.e. get a result 1- 0, without sacrificing
valuable resources. So despite the lowliness of the opposition
I'd argue that skilled management is called for.

I think it's the perfect game for Downing to start and wouldn't
mind also seeing Assaidi and Henderson.

                              Henderson  Allen
                                          Sahin
                     Downing                  Assaidi
                                             ?                                     

Wouldn't be too happy to see either Stevie or Luis start.

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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #486 on: October 19, 2012, 03:18:50 AM »
I imagine Rodgers will start with his strongest team.

This is the type of game (Reading at Anfield) that he cannot afford to lose.

Rodgers has yet to win a premiership game at Anfield.  Two draws and two losses to date, make for hardly inspiring home form.

But if Liverpool are poor at home, Reading are cr.ap away from home.   

If we score early, we could win by a couple of goals.

But it is more likely to be a 1-1 draw, or else a scrambled one goal reds victory (2-1 or 3-2).

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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #487 on: October 19, 2012, 02:59:37 PM »
I imagine Rodgers will start with his strongest team.

This is the type of game (Reading at Anfield) that he cannot afford to lose.
Seems a waste of resources to me. I think he has to be careful how
he uses our best players and our young players. He was too gung ho
with Andy and it's poor management, given our threadbare squad, if
there isn't a role for Downing in games such as this.

Gone are the days when you get anything close to 38 performances from
Stevie in the league, seems mad to have to waste one on a winnable fixture
at home. I'm also worried about us running Suarez into the ground and would
prefer if we limited the appearances of Suso and Sterling (or at least had the option
of playing them instead of relying on them as starters!).

It's most likely that Stevie and Luis will be sluggish in the opening 45 minutes
anyway following their midweek adventures and imo more susceptible to injury.

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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #488 on: October 20, 2012, 06:01:53 AM »
Seems a waste of resources to me. I think he has to be careful how
he uses our best players

we've won a mere 2 games at Anfield in 2012, Ed.

And none under Rodgers.

Given how rubbish we are (we concede soft goals, and have trouble scoring ourselves), we are in no position to treat any team lightly.
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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #489 on: October 20, 2012, 11:30:59 AM »
we've won a mere 2 games at Anfield in 2012, Ed.


A damning stat and a very scary one...we have to do our utmost to win any game at the moment. Any win gains confidence and if we fail to win this one then we'd better start waking up to the possibility of a relegation struggle.

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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #490 on: October 20, 2012, 03:54:59 PM »
we've won a mere 2 games at Anfield in 2012, Ed.

And none under Rodgers.

Given how rubbish we are (we concede soft goals, and have trouble scoring ourselves), we are in no position to treat any team lightly.

You can F**k off for all I care mate. For the first time in 2 decades it's actually fun to watch us play footy. So fed up with your uncalled for negativity. You ain't gonna get your Rafa back regardless and thank fork for that. Who is it you're supporting now again? Rafa or LFC? I honestly couldn't tell.

Brilliant first half of the lads. It's obvious we're moving in the right direction.
 
As I said before, this is going to be the most exciting season in a very very long time (The Dude excempted of course as he'd hate to see us do well unless Rafa's in charge.)
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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #491 on: October 20, 2012, 05:28:42 PM »
Poor 2nd half but good to win as it seems to be all that matters in this place at least. Think Rodgers got it wrong taking off Sahin whilst keeping the increasingly wasteful Gerrard. Shelvey a disappointment as were Susor in the second half. Suarez can't score to save his life and I think we better get used to the idea he'll never be a goalscorer but will contribute in other ways (setting up Sterling was El Diego-like).

I know the Dude, Ed and the rest of the whining lot will be disappointed to see us win but at least our stats at home are better.
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Re: Season 2012-2013
« Reply #492 on: October 20, 2012, 05:36:20 PM »
Two clean sheets in a row - it's an improvement. If we can keep the defence tightened, then we need to get someone who can put it in the net, from somewhere in the January window.

It will be a struggle for any type of European football through the league (again) so it's going to have to be through the cups.

Great finish from Raheem. Clean sheet and a good game from Jones.

The next two games will be huge tests but will also be a good indicator of where we are at the moment.
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« Reply #493 on: October 20, 2012, 05:50:28 PM »
I know the Dude, Ed and the rest of the whining lot will be disappointed to see us win.
I said a 1-0 was all that was required. Where I'd be disappointed is with the
personnel required to achieve that. I aint seen the game so I can't comment
any further really.

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« Reply #494 on: October 20, 2012, 05:53:59 PM »
I know the Dude, Ed and the rest of the whining lot will be disappointed to see us win but at least our stats at home are better.

Martin, you're wrong there. Most people on here are realists and it's beyond the control of anybody what reality looks like. A couple of good results don't make a season, any more than 3 defeats on the trot don't guarentee relegation. That stat is depressing but because we don't like it doesn't make it better. It's depressing irrespective of who was in charge.

As for Dude, he'd rather be able to forget Rafa because 'the current manager' (whoever he is at any moment in time) has made him do so due to the way the team are playing, the way the club is set up and how the manager conducts himself. Nobody wants to keep looking back for consolation because the present doesn't make good viewing. I'm not saying the present doesn't make good viewing, just trying to explain a situation to you.

We're going to suffer some high 'highs' and some low 'lows' this season, it's best not to get carried away either way with any of them.

It's a much used phrase but football is a game of results and irrespective of how we play (good or bad) we only get points for the result and the points really are all that count (factually). It's a charged that's been levelled at Wenger many times since a trophy was last won.

We got our first clean sheet last match and our first home win today. The graph is edging upwards but again, there's nothing served by making too much of it either way.

As I've said before, unless we fight relegation this season, we can't afford further instability by sacking another manager, so we need to make a firm judgement at the end of next season, but within that we will see ups and downs and there's nothing wrong with discussing the reasons behind either. 
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