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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2013, 06:48:56 PM »
All areas:-

Offensively

Defensively

Physically

Mentally

Philosophically

Tactically

Financially

Identifiably

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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2013, 06:55:04 PM »
All areas:-

Offensively

Defensively

Physically

Mentally

Philosophically

Tactically

Financially

Identifiably

In my opinion we have grown strongly Identifably and Offensively.

We have grown well Tactically and Financially and Philosophically.

We have a lot of growth left Mentally, Defensively and Physically.

In 2015 I'd like our growth to be strong in each of those areas. For us to challenge for the title we need to be strong in all of those areas. To challenge for a CL place I'd say we would need to be strong in 80% of those areas.

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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2013, 10:26:03 PM »
All areas:-

Offensively

Defensively

Physically

Mentally

Philosophically

Tactically

Financially

Identifiably

Gotcha, you're talking entire club, as you've included 'financially'. That's a whole new subject if we're going to took at the off field side.

Offensively, in isolation, I agree there's improvement, certainly in the absolute end product of goals, however, is that down to the coaching or to Suarez being more clinical than last season. I may be wrong and I haven't compared the number of different goalscorers, who and how many etc, so I stand willing (and hoping) to be corrected, but have we increased the number of scorers, spread the weight amongst the team, or is the difference down to the difference between Suarez of last season and this.

Physically - we do look sharper and fitter, injury prone players have been handled so much better, that's the one obvious, definitive area of improvement, but physically in terms of matching those who's prime weapon is physicality, winning the physical battle and the right to play, which is a much bigger factor in this league than any other European one (main ones), we are out-muscled and brushed aside too easily.

Defensively - area covered ad nauseam.

Mentally - agree with you, we're very brittle. Very disappointing considering the pros we have in our squad. Then again........

Philosophically - I'm really not a fan of the big play that has been made of Rodgers' 'philosophy'. He isn't doing anything unseen before, he's not even re-inventing the wheel. We're just more like the 'old Liverpool' but there were varying shades of that and towards the end of Dalglish's first stint it started to go off track. Evans brought back the flair but without the backbone and since we've been a bit too cautious for what is required for the league. However the ultimate test of any style or philosophy is games won. Nothing else scores you points. The best football is winning football, the style is secondary and can be debated endlessly. Whether he has instilled a philosophy into the club will only be seen with the next appointment and the one after that. Will it be continuity or another switch to a slightly or more obviously different style.

Tactically - still too naive, and I don't think they've been particularly developed to any great degree. We are still very one dimensional and obvious in our approach and we lack the ability to subdue whilst imposing. Plan A.i or A.ii or B is still more of plan A. There's no alternative or adapting to the situation as it unfolds. I think it's all a bit idealistic, naive and shallow at the moment.

Identity - still not sure exactly what you're getting at but I don't see anything too definitive or new. More a sense of back to the future, rather than Brave New World.
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Re: Another comeback masterminded by Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2013, 12:50:34 AM »
Chelsea coming from 0-2 down. Their name is on the cup.

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Re: Sir Rafael of Benitez to achieve Europa League qualification for us.
« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2013, 12:52:20 AM »
Talking of which, if they were to lose the final, finish fifth but win the Europa League, does their winning overide the fifth place finish, freeing up 6th as the new 5th?

Wouldn't it be ironic (and not a little useful) if Chelsea winning a trophy allowed us to qualify for Europe through the league?
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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2013, 05:52:27 PM »
Another thing Rodgers is much better than Rafa at:


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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2013, 07:50:41 PM »
Another thing Rodgers is much better than Rafa at:



I always said it's a good thingy to have a manager capable of upholding respectful relations with various actors in the football community, rather than making a tit of oneself and the club for no apparent reason.
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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2013, 10:50:07 PM »
capable of upholding respectful relations with various actors in the football community
Well la di f**king da, the modest oracle...
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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2013, 11:22:46 PM »
I always said it's a good thingy to have a manager capable of upholding respectful relations with various actors in the football community, rather than making a tit of oneself and the club for no apparent reason.

I agree, Souness was an asshole.
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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2013, 11:43:40 PM »
Another thing Rodgers is much better than Rafa at:



Yes because they did an interview together as it was after the Hillsborough revelations in September and it was our first game at Anfield after that.

You fuc king c unt using that to berate Rodgers is a new fu cking low.

P.s. I make  no apologies for sidesweeping the swear filter. I don't think i've been as angry as that before when I just saw that post. Knowing fork ING FULL WELL the circumstances of that interview together you still post it. Unlike Hodgson Rodgers does not kiss manc bottom. PR ICK.
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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2013, 12:20:15 AM »
Yes because they did an interview together as it was after the Hillsborough revelations in September and it was our first game at Anfield after that.

You fuc king c unt using that to berate Rodgers is a new fu cking low.

P.s. I make  no apologies for sidesweeping the swear filter. I don't think i've been as angry as that before when I just saw that post. Knowing fork ING FULL WELL the circumstances of that interview together you still post it. Unlike Hodgson Rodgers does not kiss manc bottom. PR ICK.
Xalm down 224. Jesus...

ASI doesn't like swearing and imo you're being unnecessarily
confrontational here.

Before hitting the nuclear button (and I'm glad you're not in charge
of North Korea's weaponry), I suggest you take a moment to consider
whether your interpretation of the post matches the intent of the
poster and based on such consideration temper your response to be
commensurate as opposed to inversely proportional to the possibility ::)

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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2013, 08:05:40 PM »
Another thing Rodgers is much better than Rafa at:



so what do we reckon is being said.

I think there should be a thought bubble from Fergie's head, saying "Feken ell, stop talking endless sh.it.e - and start shining my shoes"
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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2013, 08:15:53 PM »
I think there should be a thought bubble from Fergie's head
Surprised Rodgers isn't wearing a Jim'll fix it badge (no doubt
224 will be on to me for this as well).

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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2013, 11:39:13 PM »
Taggart will cease doing that soon enough if Martin's right.  :D

I miss the spats between Wenger and Taggart, but because Arsenal are no longer a threat he's all over Wenger now. Mancini's no good at the jawjaw stuff. I wonder if we'll find out how AVB deals with it.

It's just a shame Dalglish couldn't produce the goods as that would have been classic stuff, Taggart against Dalglish.
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Re: Another bottle job from Sir Rafael of Benitez
« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2013, 12:03:07 AM »
Taggart will cease doing that soon enough if Martin's right.  :D

I miss the spats between Wenger and Taggart, but because Arsenal are no longer a threat he's all over Wenger now. Mancini's no good at the jawjaw stuff. I wonder if we'll find out how AVB deals with it.

It's just a shame Dalglish couldn't produce the goods as that would have been classic stuff, Taggart against Dalglish.
I watched the 2nd half of Utd v. Chelsea (seriously good
football by the Blues) and it was obvious to me why Fergie
would try anything to unnerve Rafa.

Strange (maybe it's a hangover from his days with us) but I
love watching Rafa's teams play (Just hope to Christ Chelsea
get rid of him at the end of the season because whether their
fans see it or not he has the tools there to do something special 
:) ).

What other manager comes from 2-0 down at OT with both
teams fans chanting "You're going to be sacked in the morning" and
does it with such panache, all the while managing an away Europa League tie
on the previous Thursday and keeping John Terry on the bench??

& delightfully shows up the full hypocrisy of Sir Alex Ferguson along
the way?

Respect!
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