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Go Pepe!
« on: September 23, 2013, 03:22:26 AM »
Not good enough to play for LFC under Rodgers this man...apparently!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBB6lsqPWEU

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Re: Go Pepe!
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 08:57:43 PM »
I think things went stale for him after Rafa left and there are some players who just seem happier playing for a certain manager. Defoe and 'Arry is another one that comes to mind.

So far we can't fault Mignolet's performances. He's save us points and a negative goal difference after Saturday, though having to pin all our hopes on him instead of Pepe is still not a situation I'm comfortable with. The sooner we upgrade Jones, the better.
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Re: Go Pepe!
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 10:33:55 PM »
I think things went stale for him after Rafa left.
I agree Tes but didn't see replacing him
as a priority. I would have expected a top
manager to have sorted his form out &
invested in other areas of the squad.

As it stands we have no cover for defensive
midfield & one wonders why we spent money
on Borini & Allen...

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Re: Go Pepe!
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 11:31:29 PM »
I agree Tes but didn't see replacing him
as a priority. I would have expected a top
manager to have sorted his form out &
invested in other areas of the squad.

As it stands we have no cover for defensive
midfield & one wonders why we spent money
on Borini & Allen...

All I can put it down to was the uncertainty of whether Barca would come in for Pepe or not. As it happened Valdes chose to see out his contract, but I agree with you that otherwise, goalkeeper was very low on our list of priorities, especially as Pepe was starting to look more like his old self in the second half of the season, and his sort of experience, character and presence in the dressing room is priceless.

As for Borini and Allen, I think they were the classic example of a new manager at a club rushing into things before he's been able to assess what he's actually got and what he actually needs and bringing in familiar faces. Rodgers gets the biggest job, possibly of his entire career, and feels the need to get a couple of familiar faces who know how he works, and secondly, the level of player required here for where we want to be and the expectation of getting back there, is on another planet compared to the type he's had to look for before. They were ill thought out on so many levels and a sign of his inexperience and maybe lack of status within the game.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 11:56:13 PM »
As it stands we have no cover for defensive midfield

That's the one that really has me stumped aswell, Ed.

Allen has proven quite clearly that he's not any sort of defensive midfielder, and if Rodgers had decided that he was going to play with a screen of Gerrard and Lucas in front of the back four, then that's two positions that needed covering. As a minimum we needed one player to provide cover and competition, especially with Gerrard's age and injury record, and the way the team suffered both times Lucas was out for a lengthy period.
If not actually cover/ competition, then an alternative, would be another way of putting it. Neither Gerrard (anymore) or Lucas (ever) are quick and physically dominating, and whilst Lucas has changed his way of playing and learnt the role, everything about Gerrard says it's going to be tough for him to really re-invent himself.
He looks like a player who's been ask to play a position he doesn't want to and is doing it under sufferance, and he whilst he's always been great for any team, he's never been a great team player.

This has to be the priority in January and I think Rodgers has to look at both this individual position and the midfield as a whole, and decide what he needs collectively and from each position individually, and assess where and who needs changing and what the requirements are of any individual replacement.

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Re: Go Pepe!
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 01:21:09 AM »
That's the one that really has me stumped aswell, Ed.
Unless there are plans for Conor Coady, but that's not
realistic this season. I don't know enough about what's
coming through the ranks to speculate further about in-house
talent.

As we know Allen gets steamrollered when he plays there, seems a
shame to thwart Henderson's forward running by anchoring him there,
but you are currently looking at Allen being the only cover for midfield!!!
Seems less than satisfactory should Lucas get injured again.

It's actually a bit Mickey Mouse for a top club when an injury to a player
in a key position is not adequately covered.

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 10:46:08 AM »
It's actually a bit Mickey Mouse for a top club when an injury to a player
in a key position is not adequately covered.

With both Lucas and Gerrard playing together there, it's essentially become 2/11 of the team setup, so as you say Ed, it really seems like poor planning to be left without any cover for those positions.

I'm sure there are reasons and we don't know who we actually wanted or went after for which positions in the Summer, other than what appeared in the press, but the end result made it look like we had a scatter gun approach to the window again.
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Re: Go Pepe!
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2013, 01:31:23 AM »
So Pepe'll never play for us again  :'(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2435679/PEPE-REINA-My-Liverpool-days-Ill-back.html


Oddly, the loan move came six months after Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers assured him
he was No 1. 'His best years are in front of him, not behind him,' said Rodgers, in December.
  ::)


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Re: Go Pepe!
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2013, 12:02:16 PM »
So Pepe'll never play for us again  :'(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2435679/PEPE-REINA-My-Liverpool-days-Ill-back.html


Oddly, the loan move came six months after Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers assured him
he was No 1. 'His best years are in front of him, not behind him,' said Rodgers, in December.
  ::)

Rodgers is a marvel. He's so good that he can contradict himself in the same sentence.

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2013, 04:52:41 PM »
White man speak with forked tongue.
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