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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1605 on: April 29, 2015, 11:28:53 AM »
After last night Rodgers says he needs 'tougher players'. 'The club are working very hard and the owners will support that. If they’re available and affordable, the club will do everything to get them. That’s the challenge for me next season: building a team that can get through the rough waters.'

Brendan mate, that might be your challenge next season. But not at Liverpool.

The reason we're so poor at the moment is because he's obviously lost the dressing room. Slagging off the players after the Arsenal result, while kissing the ar.se of Gerrard when he get sent off after 38 seconds must have gone down like a house on fire.
Now i understand that Brendan doesn't want to upset his landlord but once stevie revealed that he was getting out of dodge then he was an irrelevance and should have been treated as such.
All the Stevie's FA cup milarky by the press would have been ignored by professional managers with stevie coming on in a cameo role.
That Brendan continues to play bizarre formations with players not in their comfort zones have basically alienated the players and effectively ended his reign as manager.
It's now very apparent that any decent manager would have won the league last season with Suarez in such form. And i would now argue that we lost it because of Rodgers.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1606 on: April 29, 2015, 03:44:32 PM »
After last night Rodgers says he needs 'tougher players'. 'The club are working very hard and the owners will support that. If they’re available and affordable, the club will do everything to get them. That’s the challenge for me next season: building a team that can get through the rough waters.'

Brendan mate, that might be your challenge next season. But not at Liverpool.

The reason we're so poor at the moment is because he's obviously lost the dressing room. Slagging off the players after the Arsenal result, while kissing the ar.se of Gerrard when he get sent off after 38 seconds must have gone down like a house on fire.
Now i understand that Brendan doesn't want to upset his landlord but once stevie revealed that he was getting out of dodge then he was an irrelevance and should have been treated as such.
All the Stevie's FA cup milarky by the press would have been ignored by professional managers with stevie coming on in a cameo role.
That Brendan continues to play bizarre formations with players not in their comfort zones have basically alienated the players and effectively ended his reign as manager.
It's now very apparent that any decent manager would have won the league last season with Suarez in such form. And i would now argue that we lost it because of Rodgers.
He's just making it up as he goes along now, basically saying that
he's signed a bunch of players who are mentally weak and have
no character.

Surprise, surprise he ruthlessly slashed any experienced players the
club has from the squad without replacement...

The problem of course is that after year 3 this dawns on him, he has
no clear idea what he's doing.

So we limp on with a lame duck who has a serious credibility problem. No credibility. Zero.

You can always tell when the certainty drains from the voice of the manager...the endgame has begun.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1607 on: April 29, 2015, 04:29:53 PM »
yes, pretty much agree with what both of you are saying, Bart and Ed.

I think the lack of experience, as Ed says, with selling all our experienced players, now means the guile and the fight is no longer there to see us through the bad times.....like this past month (and the opening half of the season).

Plus, re losing the dressing room (as Bart says), is most likely down to the lads now seeing Rodgers for what he is.  They probably now see through him.   He is all talk, and ego......with no substance.

His project is three years old.....we are further away now from the Liverpool of old, than we have ever been.   I do not ever recall us having such a feeble front-line.....or a feeble starting eleven, in all my time watching.  Yes, there are 2 or 3 lads of great potential......but that is not how we used to work.  Where is the experience?  Where are the guys who know how to win things?  Where are the people who know how to hold a game up and dictate the pace?   There are not there.  They were sold on....and for peanuts.     Ah yes, but dumping them meant we saved a lot in wages.  OK, but look where we are now. 

Suarez was an anomaly.  Without him, the emperor has no clothes.

In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was, in me, an invincible summer.

There’s no next time. It’s now or never.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1608 on: April 29, 2015, 05:19:59 PM »
I think the lack of experience, as Ed says, with selling all our experienced players, now means the guile and the fight is no longer there to see us through the bad times.....like this past month (and the opening half of the season).

Suarez was an anomaly.  Without him, the emperor has no clothes.
When you look at the situation against Hull.

An old warhorse in charge, schooled in the Fergie tradition of
scoring a last minute header to win a league. He's not going
to roll over to a bunch of kids worried about whether they're
earning a 100 grand a week.

He'll instill into his defence of likely journeymen defenders to
give us nothing. The younger defenders will look to the older
ones. Everyone on message:

"Do the simple tasks of defending well" - repeat

After half an hour, the confidence grows. Half-time bloody euphoria.

Now, you throw Suarez into the mix and the older journeymen players
are on edge, their resolve weakened - defeated before they go on the pitch.
The younger players see this and the nerves sweep through the defense,
mistakes creep in opening up opportunities.

Yet we see in this relegation candidate of a team, everything we lack.

Our manager can't send a team out with a relentless purpose and get
a result because he prefers to indulge technically accomplished but
mentally weak players and there are no steely pros on the pitch to whip
these guys in to shape and set an example.

So after year 3 there is not enough motivation within the ranks end of
season to defeat Hull, West Brom and Villa. I simply don't understand that.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1609 on: April 29, 2015, 07:22:50 PM »
Tes you can now remove that last line in your signature......

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1610 on: April 29, 2015, 08:13:20 PM »
Tes you can now remove that last line in your signature......

have you heard something, Edward   re our owners attitude to Rodgers position?
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1611 on: April 29, 2015, 08:16:11 PM »
When you look at the situation against Hull.

An old warhorse in charge, schooled in the Fergie tradition of
scoring a last minute header to win a league. He's not going
to roll over to a bunch of kids worried about whether they're
earning a 100 grand a week.

He'll instill into his defence of likely journeymen defenders to
give us nothing.

Our manager can't send a team out with a relentless purpose and get
a result because he prefers to indulge technically accomplished but
mentally weak players and there are no steely pros on the pitch to whip
these guys in to shape and set an example.

So after year 3 there is not enough motivation within the ranks end of
season to defeat Hull, West Brom and Villa. I simply don't understand that.

if our boss had any intelligence, he would know that this was a must-win game for Hull.

and with that in mind, you would stay structured, and wait your chance.

but like against Chelsea last season, Rodgers has no clue about game management.

he, like Keegan, goes forward regardless of what he needs from a match.
In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was, in me, an invincible summer.

There’s no next time. It’s now or never.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1612 on: April 29, 2015, 08:18:35 PM »


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In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was, in me, an invincible summer.

There’s no next time. It’s now or never.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1613 on: April 29, 2015, 08:21:08 PM »
I definitely detect a change in the media, this past couple of weeks.....especially the past 2 or 3 days.

Whether they have got a sniff of something, and smell blood, or are trying to pre-empt Rodgers' departure, I dunno.

But the media have definitely started to turn on Rodgers.   His days may be numbered.
In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was, in me, an invincible summer.

There’s no next time. It’s now or never.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1614 on: April 29, 2015, 09:53:05 PM »
Reading a bit today in the redandwhitekop.......and several posters say the problem regarding a Rafa return, is Pam Ayres.

Apparently Rafa will never return while PamAyres is in charge.  I presume that means Pam Ayre does not care for Rafa.

OK, sack Ayres.  Easy peasy.

In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was, in me, an invincible summer.

There’s no next time. It’s now or never.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1615 on: April 29, 2015, 09:59:23 PM »
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Crosby Wych on RAWK, April 20th 2015 said:

I fornicating love everything about that man (Rafa) and i'm not ashamed to say it, and i'll never forgive Ian Ayre for refusing to even cross the road and meet him for a cup of coffee to discuss the LFC job back in 2012, or any of the bellends who helped run him out of the club.

For older people, Shankly/Dalglish represents what Liverpool FC is about, for me Rafa Benitez stands for everything our club and city should be


sums up my exact feelings.

In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was, in me, an invincible summer.

There’s no next time. It’s now or never.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1616 on: April 29, 2015, 10:13:45 PM »
from a poster on RAWK

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LFC called a 'crisis meeting' today, couple of heads may roll, worth stating explicitly that Rodgers position absolutely not on the agenda.
In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was, in me, an invincible summer.

There’s no next time. It’s now or never.

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« Reply #1617 on: April 29, 2015, 11:21:26 PM »
from a poster on RAWK

Ha ha, typical FSG. Didn't they sack Comolli first (the man who bought Suarez).

Anyway, glad to see you made it back from enemy territory unscathed  ;D

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1618 on: April 30, 2015, 04:32:22 PM »
Anyway, glad to see you made it back from enemy territory unscathed  ;D

 :D


there are still one or two who are giving sermons.

But the majority call them out, on their holier-than-thou approach.  When the poo hits the fan, the sermon givers run for cover.

I did note that new registrations are still closed for redandwhitekop (RAWK)

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1619 on: May 02, 2015, 02:02:08 AM »
I definitely detect a change in the media, this past couple of weeks.....especially the past 2 or 3 days.

Whether they have got a sniff of something, and smell blood, or are trying to pre-empt Rodgers' departure, I dunno.

But the media have definitely started to turn on Rodgers.   His days may be numbered.

I've also noted some buzz from certain quarters:

Opinions differ on Lawton:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/article31186568.ece

I think the point I agree with there is that rather than being a vehicle for self-promotion
by Rodgers (which is one of the reasons I can't watch the games). It would be nice to
have that old LFC feeling back.

& this survey
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/liverpool-should-sack-brendan-rodgers-say-majority-of-independentcouk-readers-10216849.html

It's difficult to work out whether or not it's just lazy journalism designed as
clickbait for disappointed LFC fans.

It's clear to me though that any honeymoon period Rodgers might have
enjoyed from the fans is now well and truly over. The problem for the
club is that this creates massive pressure on the manager - cup finals in
September. Under such circumstances it just seems unwise entrust another
transfer window to a lame duck? Do we need to reach crisis point next
Autumn or Winter. Then what?