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Offline Martinmarx

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #675 on: December 07, 2014, 07:11:23 PM »
Well Martin that is the whole crux of the matter.

You say he can't be trusted with more money and you may well be right.

However with no transparency or accountability of who is in the transfer committee and who makes the decisions then, ultimately how do we know that he can be trusted or not?

We can sell our vision and ambition of the club but is doesn't matter one iota. Not one iota.

Klopp WANTS to be Arsenal manager. Guardiola WANTS to be a Man Utd manager. Simeone wants to manage in Italy next. Don't tell me how I know, I just do. You can sell ice to the eskimos but you will never ever sell LFC to those three.

We can have power point presentations, we can have 1000 pages of what our visions and ideals and ambition for the club. Fact of the matter is that we are 5th on the list of clubs in england for top managers - well not top but let's say elite - to manage. Both Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Arsenal are all much more attractive. Because of these reasons:-

1:- Man City and Chelsea have unlimited money.

2:- Man Utd are the biggest club in england.

3:- Arsenal have the 2nd biggest turnover in england and 20 years of stability.

We are way below them. So sell visions and ambition all you want. It won't matter one iota to those elite managers. Because they know who they want to manage in england already.

I would agree a lot with your point on accountability and transparency. That's also why I wonder whether FSG are fit to run this club in the long term. They've done a great job to drag us back from the brink, but they don't seem to understand the game at all.

I just feel we're back where we were under Hodgson and Dalglish.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #676 on: December 07, 2014, 10:36:25 PM »
FSG have had tentative talks with AVB. It's in the Times tomorrow.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #677 on: December 07, 2014, 11:45:20 PM »
FSG have had tentative talks with AVB. It's in the Times tomorrow.
Well it's good that they are actively monitoring the situation
and talking to people. The fixtures in the next two weeks could
be decisive in terms of our season.

I note Andy Carroll back on the scoresheet today with 2 trademark finishes
boosting them up to 3rd. People can say what they like about him but his
attitude was always spot on. We sold him for £15 million and bought Balotelli
for £16 million. Are we better or worse off and what is the grand plan that I'm
missing?? The only justification for buying Balotelli at £16 million would be to
turn him into a £35 million player.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #678 on: December 08, 2014, 02:53:49 AM »
FSG have had tentative talks with AVB. It's in the Times tomorrow.

that is terrifying news.

AVB is not fit to manager in the Doctor Martin League (no disrespect, Martin), farless the premiership.  He is actually, if anything, worse than Rodgers.

If our owners try and employ AVB, there will be riots in the streets.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #679 on: December 08, 2014, 03:38:10 AM »
that is terrifying news.

AVB is not fit to manager in the Doctor Martin League (no disrespect, Martin), farless the premiership.  He is actually, if anything, worse than Rodgers.

If our owners try and employ AVB, there will be riots in the streets.
Didn't they speak to him before or there were rumours, he
was prized back then on the back of his success with Porto.

He hasn't done the business in the PL and was no doubt
blessed with significant resources at Chelsea and Spurs.
Arguably he did achieve something in Europe but, not since.

Strangely, when the spotlight moves away from the incompetence
currently been shown by Rodgers and starts to shine on the incompetents
who employed him...

It's f**king b*llshit, Rick Parry went out and got us Rafa Benitez when
the club was being held together like a dandelion in the breeze by
Mr. Moores. Given that the room to manoeuvre is far greater than back
then it boils down to the fact that we need a Chief Executive who can
match the history, class and ambition of the club.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #680 on: December 08, 2014, 08:15:03 AM »
that is terrifying news.

AVB is not fit to manager in the Doctor Martin League (no disrespect, Martin), farless the premiership.  He is actually, if anything, worse than Rodgers.

If our owners try and employ AVB, there will be riots in the streets.

And I will quit my job, sell the hous and leave my family to join the masses. That's horibble news if true. I'll do an Ed for sure if that happens.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #681 on: December 08, 2014, 03:01:07 PM »
if AVB is our level now, then I propose:

Tim Sherwood

Roy Keane

Neil Lennon

Ally McCoist

Andy Townsend

Stephen Gerrard

Jamie Carragher
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #682 on: December 08, 2014, 06:14:40 PM »
As I said the other day all this spouting our vision and ambition boll-ocks is just that. Boll-ocks.

Elite level managers already know what clubs they want to manage.

You can sell water to fish, ice to eskimos and grass to cows but you cannot sell LFC to certain managers. I haven't said ALL elite managers. Just the ones that are most talked about at the moment.

Don't blame FSG either. Having stabilised us, given us well over £250m to spend and improved the infrastructure and revenue stream for the club imo they are doing a good job. True they wanted a certain type of manager in 2012 and targeted those. AVB, Martinez and Rodgers. They also wanted a DoF but acquiesced to Brendan and started this transfer committee nonsense - their only mistake. Well hiring Commolli was another.....

But the upcoming few weeks will test their resolve.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #683 on: December 08, 2014, 07:06:04 PM »
As I said the other day all this spouting our vision and ambition boll-ocks is just that. Boll-ocks.

Elite level managers already know what clubs they want to manage.
Football would be a very boring world if it followed your logic.

I think when Guardiola was born, a nurse (United fan) hypnotised him
and told him that he had to manage Utd. in 2016.

Nobody knows what the future holds, it's why we call it a funny old game.
Tories join Ukip, strange sh*t happens and there are no certainties. But
if you don't get off your bottom and go out there and convince people or
players of why LFC is the best place for them, some other club usually
does.

The fact is nobody takes Ayre seriously and that's why we get lumped with mediocrity.
Change that detail and other things begin to change.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #684 on: December 09, 2014, 04:34:26 PM »
To be honest I would have picked AVB long before Brendan Rodgers in the first place. He won the Portuguese league, cup and Europa league with Porto. Got sacked by Chelski 3 points off 4th in March and the following season got Tottenham's best ever points total and missed out on top 4 on the last day.

I think he has considerable more nous than Sherwood, Keane et al, but is he good enough? Serious doubts.
FSG are obviously sadly not going to go for Rafa, Klopp is nailed on for Arsenal and Ancelotti would be ideal and Real Madrid are certainly idiotic to sack him, but that would be in the summer and by then the attraction of Champs League would be gone. Can't think of many others.
HUGE game tonight, Lucas had better play and Rodgers better get his fecking lineup right.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #685 on: December 09, 2014, 07:50:28 PM »
Lucas starts.

Sad, that a team of Liverpool's stature starts, such an important must-win game, with one striker of any note - a 34 year old.

Our only hope is the crowd.

I fear that Basel will win tonight.  And if we go behind, they could win by a few.  Lucas stands between us competing and getting pasted.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #686 on: December 09, 2014, 08:11:12 PM »
Weak pass from Mignolet....dilly dallying in defence...terrible play...give the ball away....excellent goal from frei....pathetic from us...basel harry all of our players as soon as they have the ball and never give us time....reminds me of how we used to play....
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #687 on: December 09, 2014, 08:30:13 PM »
Surely to feck coutinho and lallana have to come on...ideally lovren and johnson come off as well...cos they are beyond shine-a-light...and i'm not even mentioning allen and henderson....at least sterling is trying...and without lucas this would be embarrassing...

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #688 on: December 09, 2014, 08:33:18 PM »
HALF TIME

the Swiss champions are comfortably ahead at Anfield.

we don't even deserve to be on zero.

I predicted last season that Rodgers would be embarrassed in the Champions League.

These are very different days, to when Rafa had us bossing Europe.

Sadly, morons successfully demanded that he be sacked.


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Offline Martinmarx

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #689 on: December 09, 2014, 08:43:54 PM »
Outclassed and outplayed in the worst performance of the season at home. Some player's contribution hardly helps. Have taken notes on Sterling in first half. Here goes:

*Weak pass to Johnson in the box.
*Failed dribble.
*Lose ball to throw in.
*Backward pass at the half-way line.
*Wins a corner by good pressing.
*Failed pass into the box.
*Failed pass into the box.
*Wins free-kick outside the right corner of the box.
*Wins free-kick at the half-way line.
*Failed reception of the ball in the box.
*Free in the box misses pass.
*Backward pass outside the box.
*7 meter sideways pass at the half-way line.
*3 meter sideways pass at the half-way line.
*Short pass near offensive corner flag.
*Succesful dribble but weak shot at goal.
*Sideways and backward pass at the half-way line.
*Concedes free-kick at half-way line.
*Failed pass through the center.
*Failed head pass half-way up the opponents half.
*Failed pass into the box.
*Failed pass into the box.
*Wins the ball at the half-way line but fail the following pass.
*Failed pass.

I might have missed a few touches but they had similar results. This is shockingly poor.
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