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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #195 on: September 22, 2014, 06:59:27 PM »
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yes, Rafa was always able to spot a top player, and at the right money

In Bold - LOL

£12m for Babel, Dossena £7m, Riera £8m, Keane £19m, Aquiliani £18m.

But really it was the crap he bought for the range of £4m to £10m prices that had the cumulative affect of a bigger waste.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #196 on: September 22, 2014, 07:11:12 PM »
Oh players playing in euros and world cup semis and finals.

Alonso - yeah a man that was the main reason Real Sociedad finished 2nd in 02/03. Oh yes Ed he was unknown wasn't he!!!! Only a blind man could not have seen Alonso's potential brilliance at that time.

Arbeloa - Agreed. Genius move from Rafa.

Reina - Played for Barcelona on a regular basis before joining us and was only a No.2 or No.3 for Spain so really he doesn't count.

Kuyt - A regular dutch international before we ever signed him.

Mascherano - A regular Argentine international before we ever signed him.

Torres - A regular for Spain before we ever signed him.

Oh yes Ed Rafa signed those "unknowns" who went on to win international titles or be in semis and finals.

Please the rewriting of history is B.S.

Oh and yes oh many times oh Rafa lovers did we challenge for the league during his time here?! OH YES ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.s These past few posts weren't my definition of Anti-Rafa because you wouldn't want to read that.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #197 on: September 22, 2014, 08:24:00 PM »
bringing in more than 3 new starters to the first 11

Look how hard it's been for the club to get rid of Lucas

I totally agree that you have to be clinical and ruthless. Gerrard should have been replaced already. Have either of the last three managers even considered this, n
Yeah, didn't the F**kwit crow for ages when he arrived
about his faith in youth?? In hindsight 'twas utter BS on his part

Lucas had the makings of a great player for us before the injury. I'll
be honest I haven't seen much of him recently (haven't seen a game for
over a year).

It requires balls to make tough decisions like that




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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #198 on: September 22, 2014, 08:26:58 PM »
Oh players playing in euros and world cup semis and finals.
Who has your man signed... and what is the likelihood of
them ever gracing the upper echelons of World Football?

Give him the England job.

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« Reply #199 on: September 22, 2014, 08:35:31 PM »

Can o' worms opened.

"Dem der woyms is leavin dat der can quicky dana ferret on dat der acid stuffymago dat Mama likeys droppin wid der moonshine"  Pulls hat down, chews furiously on half a corn field and awaits the inevitable..................   ;D
You put them pins up and I'll knock 'em down. I recall
Dude liking a spot of bowling before his shameless defection  :D

I love that celebration by Jose at Anfield last year, perfectly
captures the weakness inherent in the current regime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uC8w6X8oSo

They should play it on rotation in the reception area at Anfield
and then ask people to listen to the immortal words of the great
Bill Shankly - Spot the difference!

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #200 on: September 22, 2014, 08:42:19 PM »
Rafa was always able to spot a top player.
Had us number 1 team in Europe for a while.

Anyway, I'm not calling for his return, just highlighting
a different, more successful approach.

The next manager needs to be Rafa-like in certain areas.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #201 on: September 22, 2014, 08:44:45 PM »
Daniel Agger has revealed how disagreements with Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers last season paved the way for his Anfield exit.
I'm sure there are others.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #202 on: September 22, 2014, 10:56:48 PM »
Yeah, didn't the F**kwit crow for ages when he arrived
about his faith in youth?? In hindsight 'twas utter BS on his part

Lucas had the makings of a great player for us before the injury. I'll
be honest I haven't seen much of him recently (haven't seen a game for
over a year).

It requires balls to make tough decisions like that

Whilst he's not brought through too many, one of the things he seems to have focused almost solely on is buying players of below a certain age, whilst we've systematically rid ourselves of experience (with the exception of Gerrard).

Lucas has been tragically unlucky with suffering two major injuries in very quick succession. Without those injuries we'd have the base of the diamond well and truly sorted. I know a lot of people decry Lucas, but let's see how effective a defensive midfielder is when expected to play as an attacking midfielder, and how many attacking midfielders would succeed at being moulded into a defensive. Lucas was an attacking midfielder at Gremio, pulling the strings from just outside the area and making well timed runs to get on the end of things. He didn't have a defensive string to his bow at Gremio, but that seems to be conveniently overlooked when appraising Lucas' Liverpool career.

Balls, or a thick skin, thick enough to ignore the misplaced outcry from a few, and to understand it's not about being popular (or at least it shouldn't be), it's about being successful. He only needs to look at how Taggart dispensed with 'Utd legends and fans' heroes', or if he can't bear gazing into that cesspit, then how Bob Paisley handled Hughes, Thompson and Smith.

He's got 'his' squad give or take one or two, and unless we hit freefall, or are in the bottom three at Christmas, then I think last season's over achievement buys him this season to make it work overall.
I state overall, because I've got little patience left where our defending is concerned. This is his third season and the defending has never been great, but since the start of the year it's descended from 'not great' into farcical. 
Don't make the same mistake twice, there's plenty of new ones to choose from.

Those who choose to preach would do well to take note of their own sermons.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #203 on: September 22, 2014, 10:59:40 PM »
Edward doing an admiral 'Kuyt like' effort to get the worms back in the can.  ;D

Fowler loves a tryer.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #204 on: September 22, 2014, 11:05:37 PM »
Who has your man signed... and what is the likelihood of
them ever gracing the upper echelons of World Football?

Give him the England job.

Sturridge, Coutinho, Sakho, Moreno all strong possibilities.

Not to mention the development of Sterling under Rodgers as well.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #205 on: September 22, 2014, 11:07:12 PM »
Had us number 1 team in Europe for a while.

Anyway, I'm not calling for his return, just highlighting
a different, more successful approach.

The next manager needs to be Rafa-like in certain areas.

Certainly was not successful in the league though eh.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2014, 12:41:19 AM »
Whilst he's not brought through too many, one of the things he seems to have focused almost solely on is buying players of below a certain age, whilst we've systematically rid ourselves of experience (with the exception of Gerrard).
Yeah, but he did seem to spend an inordinate amount of time when he
first arrived going on and on and on about youth, youth, youth.

Then he goes out and spends an inordinate amount of money over the
Summer on all these new faces i.e. no faith in our youth.

Then I think last season's over achievement buys him this season to make it work overall.
God bless your patience Tes  :D

Sturridge, Coutinho, Sakho, Moreno all strong possibilities.

Not to mention the development of Sterling under Rodgers as well.
It's all just an audition for the England job. At which point he'll most likely remember
his passion for youth.




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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #207 on: September 23, 2014, 12:46:17 AM »
God bless your patience Tes  :D

 :D   :D
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« Reply #208 on: September 23, 2014, 02:14:58 AM »
:D   :D
Good One Tes, if you can't laugh about it all, forget it!  :D

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #209 on: September 23, 2014, 05:54:27 AM »
Certainly was not successful in the league though eh.

but to be fair, edward, both Rafa and Brendan finished second in the premiership with Liverpool.

and Brendan has had a lot more money to spend.   So if we say second is not successful, then Brendan's efforts are similarly tainted.

With Rafa we repeatedly qualified for the CL.....and got to two CL finals....and he had us as the number one ranked club in Europe.   And all at the same time as having two yankee barstewards continually stealing the family silver.  And he won trophies - i.e. success.



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