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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #435 on: October 26, 2014, 02:17:43 PM »
During our run in the second half of the season we had one obvious over-riding problem to sort out in the Summer - the whole defensive side of our game. Adding/changing personnel can only ever be a part of the problem.

Then, unsurprisingly, Suarez leaves - priority no2.

Adding depth to the squad was the third and a very distant third.

Adding numbers has to be done over a period of time, carefully. IMHO, it's best done by upgrading the weakest two or three positions in the first 11 each year (you may get one extra addition in the Winter window, if lucky). The upgraded player becoming cover/competition, and the previous cover/competition can add depth (depending on a few variables), or be sold.

Depth can also be added by bringing in 'potential' from the Under-21s, but whichever way, it's a long known fact that you try to avoid making too many changes in personnel in one go, to the first team, or favoured core of 14/15 players from which the starting 11 is usually chosen.

So priority one, was likely to require at least one personnel change - left back being the obvious as the weakest position, though only just ahead of right back. It could/should also require a tweak in the playing method, and very possibly the addition of a new midfielder into the starting 11 also.

Priority two was definitely going to require two players, as it was impossible to find goals, chance creation and sheer effort/workrate and 'will to win', all from one player.

Rodgers has come out and stated that the signing of multiple players was part of a long standing plan, however, that in itself ignores the poor defensive performance between the start of his reign and the formulation of the plan.
To then carry on 'regardless', ignoring the two obvious priorities that arose during and just after the last season, is just pure negligence.

Just like we weren't going to make up the goal difference in the Palace game and priority was therefore simply get the three points, we can't bring our squad up to 20-22 top class players + 3 'up and comers' in one or two windows, so addressing the two priorities and therewithin strengthening the first 11, by definition, also strengthens the squad, but in the most sustainable and consistent way.   
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #436 on: October 26, 2014, 02:39:22 PM »
Doubled our clean sheet record for the season. Rodgers, the new defensive minded manager. Sack him. We don't want Houllier style turgid football.  ;D
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #437 on: October 26, 2014, 02:42:38 PM »
Would you trust him with any more of the club's money?

Do we have any more to spend without selling first?

Can we handle trying to integrate any more players?

Unfortunately our need is probably the complete opposite to the answers to those 3 questions.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #438 on: October 26, 2014, 06:42:30 PM »
very true. Ed.

But I have always despised the notion though of a Director of Football.

I do not want it, ever.
Absolutely, the only reason I mention it is because
his reign has to be viewed from the point of view
that he refused to work under a DF.

Those big decisions on signings (amongst other things),
he can't make 'em.

Fortress Anfield? There was a 20 minute spell in the game
vs Real where they surgically removed our liver with no
anesthetic.

The trick is Rodgers provides the anesthetic in the post
match interview.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #439 on: October 26, 2014, 06:47:30 PM »
Do we have any more to spend without selling first?

Can we handle trying to integrate any more players?

Unfortunately our need is probably the complete opposite to the answers to those 3 questions.
The whole thing reminds me of the years post Dalglish's
first spell as manager when we were always signing players
that seemed good on paper.

We'd sign someone and gradually the impact of the player faded
but not before the thrill of another new signing arrived.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #440 on: October 27, 2014, 02:14:54 AM »
Those big decisions on signings (amongst other things),
he can't make 'em.

Fortress Anfield? There was a 20 minute spell in the game
vs Real where they surgically removed our liver with no
anesthetic.

The trick is Rodgers provides the anesthetic in the post
match interview.

agreed.

but I suspect an element of the fans will catch Rodgers on, before the owners do.

Without Suarez, Rodgers is shown for the snake-oil-salesman that he always was.

Tell you what - the usual f.u.kwits slabber endlessly about Gerrard being world class. 

Suarez was genuinely world class......and look at how such a top player can transform a club.

Gerrard isn't fit to lace his boots.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #441 on: October 27, 2014, 02:19:59 AM »
To then carry on 'regardless', ignoring the two obvious priorities that arose during and just after the last season, is just pure negligence.

Just like we weren't going to make up the goal difference in the Palace game and priority was therefore simply get the three points, we can't bring our squad up to 20-22 top class players + 3 'up and comers' in one or two windows, so addressing the two priorities and there within strengthening the first 11, by definition, also strengthens the squad, but in the most sustainable and consistent way.   

absolutely.

we don't seem to have any master plan.

we are always linked with wide players.

we are destined to always be a club in transition.......but if you give the guru long enough, he will get us to the mountain top......only of course, it is always just over the next ridge.

I wonder how long before he starts to go on about keeping the faith.  That was Houllier's fall-back excuse in the final 18 months.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #442 on: October 27, 2014, 07:24:32 PM »








It's just about impossible to get a penalty at the Stretford End.

Unless you get shot by Lee Harvey Oswald in that penalty area, and have a doctor's letter to verify it, you will never get a penalty.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #443 on: October 28, 2014, 01:15:15 AM »
Without Suarez, Rodgers is shown for the snake-oil-salesman that he always was.
Brendan was very happy to meet Carlo Ancelotti:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/best-face-brendan-rodgers-ever-4485601

I'm sure he was happier, still, that Real took the foot off the accelerator
in the 2nd half, enabling him to cite a tremendous improvement by us in the
2nd half... ::)

Of course when Rafa Benitez met Carlo Ancelotti and was 3 - 0 down at
half-time to a Milan side packed with stars there was a different response
in the second half which led to us winning a trophy:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x106qzm_make-us-dream_sport

Rafa was interested in a result & a trophy!


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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #444 on: October 28, 2014, 09:32:27 PM »
 :D

yes, funny picture of our guru meeting Ancellotti.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #445 on: October 28, 2014, 09:38:41 PM »
swansea lead one nil.

we have been, as usual, impotent.

The Swansea goal, a dink over the top, and a volley on the dropping ball, raises major questions.

Who is our number 6 - Lovren?  FFS The ball was dropping out of the air, Lovren had to make a fu.king effort to anticipate that their guy would volley it.   Lovren didn't even make an effort.  He didn't even run.  A mere canter, with no effort to close the chance down.

If I were boss, I would substitute him immediately after the goal.

Not good enough.  Not remotely near good enough.

Ah well, never fear.  On comes Balotelli.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #446 on: October 28, 2014, 09:43:46 PM »
1-1

cometh the hour, cometh the man

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #447 on: October 28, 2014, 10:06:01 PM »
we win 2-1

we were woeful.

but we won because swansea were even more woeful than us.

our scorers, balotelli and lovren are nowhere near good enough to play for Liverpool FC......that tells you all you need to know.

The lad that impressed me, was (as usual) Countinho.  I just wish we had had another year or two of Suarez at the club, to have helped Countinho's development.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #448 on: October 31, 2014, 09:47:16 AM »
It's only when you see a mosquito landing on your testicles that you realize that there is always a way to solve a problem without using violence.!

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #449 on: November 01, 2014, 02:33:16 PM »
Another calamity in defence, gifts the opposition the goal (and win).  Rather than hack it into row Z, Moreno dawdles.  I wonder who demanded no hoofing when under extreme pressure?

Brendan was the name in the envelope.

The sooner he leaves, the better.
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