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Offline Edward224

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1455 on: April 16, 2015, 01:20:30 PM »
He didn't employ the scouts the club did. Pascoe has been his assistant everywhere so it was natural for him to take him here - plus Pascoe is a very good coach.

Every club is a selling club except Chelsea, Bayern, Barca and Real. Man U are a selling club, Arsenal are a selling club, Atletico are a selling club etc.

FSG wanted a DoF but Brendan didn't so FSG gave Brendan what he wanted. However to cloud that we have transfer committee which clouds a lot of things.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1456 on: April 16, 2015, 02:30:06 PM »
Quote from: Edward224 on April 16, 2015, 01:20:30 PM
He didn't employ the scouts the club did. Pascoe has been his assistant everywhere so it was natural for him to take him here - plus Pascoe is a very good coach.

Every club is a selling club except Chelsea, Bayern, Barca and Real. Man U are a selling club, Arsenal are a selling club, Atletico are a selling club etc.

FSG wanted a DoF but Brendan didn't so FSG gave Brendan what he wanted. However to cloud that we have transfer committee which clouds a lot of things.

How do you figure the Mancs are a selling club? Arsenal less so today than a few years ago. Struggle to see any of the "buying clubs" you mention lure Sanches, Özil or Ramsey from the Emirates unless they cough up a Baleesque fee.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1457 on: April 16, 2015, 05:30:24 PM »
Quote from: Edward224 on April 16, 2015, 01:20:30 PM
He didn't employ the scouts the club did. Pascoe has been his assistant everywhere so it was natural for him to take him here - plus Pascoe is a very good coach.

Every club is a selling club except Chelsea, Bayern, Barca and Real. Man U are a selling club, Arsenal are a selling club, Atletico are a selling club etc.

FSG wanted a DoF but Brendan didn't so FSG gave Brendan what he wanted. However to cloud that we have transfer committee which clouds a lot of things.

is Pascoe good enough for a top club.

and Barry Hunter, and the other ex-Man City scouts......if they wer enot good enough for City, then why would they be good enough for Liverpool.

Reminds of the era when we had Joe Corrigan as our goalkeeping coach......and I was always perplexed as to why.

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1458 on: April 16, 2015, 10:03:13 PM »
Quote from: the dude abides on April 16, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
is Pascoe good enough for a top club.
ROFL, are you being serious? Dude, do you forget the club we were (before we let it slip
and then Fergie destroyed us).

Meantime, amazing result by Rafa in the EL, away against the team 2nd in the Bundesliga.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1459 on: April 16, 2015, 11:56:43 PM »
Quote from: Ed on April 16, 2015, 10:03:13 PM
Meantime, amazing result by Rafa in the EL, away against the team 2nd in the Bundesliga.
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excatly, Ed.

ANOTHER superb result in Europe from our guy, Rafa.

Rafa hammers Germany's second best team, by 4 goals to one, in Germany.

Meanwhile the cypriot, maltese and faroe islands champs can give Brendan a staunch challenge.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1460 on: April 17, 2015, 12:24:05 AM »
Quote from: the dude abides on April 16, 2015, 11:56:43 PM
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excatly, Ed.

ANOTHER superb result in Europe from our guy, Rafa.

Rafa hammers Germany's second best team, by 4 goals to one, in Germany.

Meanwhile the cypriot, maltese and faroe islands champs can give Brendan a staunch challenge.
& this is largely the point I've been hammering this season. My gripe.

What we see this season is a squad of players who can't compete in the league or
Europe.

Now, I don't expect to win the league. I understand the importance of the CL spot. BUT,
when I see us being utterly humiliated by Real and then throwing the Besiktas tie to
prepare for City, I don't see a football club as I understand it, an entity that builds squads
and teams to compete for trophies each season.

We've now become a victim or slave to top 4. We're a shallow, cynical, anti-football entity which
prioritises qualifying for tournaments at the expense of actually competing in tournaments.
That's not LFC for me.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1461 on: April 17, 2015, 02:08:49 AM »
Quote from: Ed on April 17, 2015, 12:24:05 AM

We've now become a victim or slave to top 4. We're a shallow, cynical, anti-football entity which
prioritises qualifying for tournaments at the expense of actually competing in tournaments.
That's not LFC for me.

It isn't LFC. And Bodgers can never get us there...the 3 year project is over. Fail.
The idea of a new untested manager horrifies me.
Tried and tested managers and we just might get back to where we belong.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1462 on: April 17, 2015, 03:11:43 AM »
Quote from: barticus on April 17, 2015, 02:08:49 AM
It isn't LFC. And Bodgers can never get us there...the 3 year project is over. Fail.
The idea of a new untested manager horrifies me.
Tried and tested managers and we just might get back to where we belong.
It's Swansea with a bigger budget. I note Swansea are currently on the points total
Rodgers finished with them. Should we hire Garry Monk? or so the logic goes...

Problem is the Roll Royce managers, the serious players with ambitions to win the CL
every season, have no desire to return to the tight budgets of their early years.

Maybe winning the FA cup will earn Rodgers a reprieve (stave off pressing questions
about our squad investment and subsequent performance in Europe) and to be fair,
given 2006 (I think?) is our last majorish trophy, it's not to be sniffed at.

The horror is that, should we not win the FA cup, we could be set to invest another sh*t
load of cash in the Summer transfer market under the current regime :o The gulf simply
widens. That's why I really don't understand the direction the club is heading in.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1463 on: April 17, 2015, 03:12:37 AM »
Quote from: the dude abides on April 16, 2015, 11:56:43 PM
Rafa hammers Germany's second best team, by 4 goals to one, in Germany.
I bet he was p*ssed off that they conceded 1  ;D
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1464 on: April 17, 2015, 01:34:31 PM »
Quote from: Martinmarx on April 16, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
How do you figure the Mancs are a selling club? Arsenal less so today than a few years ago. Struggle to see any of the "buying clubs" you mention lure Sanches, Özil or Ramsey from the Emirates unless they cough up a Baleesque fee.

Man Utd are a selling club unless you've forgotten Ronaldo. They'll sell De Gea too when Real come calling. If any of the Spanish two come calling for one of their players, they'll sell. Eventually. It'll be for mega bucks but they'll sell.

Ozil and Ramsey aren't good enough for those clubs and Barca sold Sanchez in the first place.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1465 on: April 17, 2015, 01:37:50 PM »
Quote from: the dude abides on April 16, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
is Pascoe good enough for a top club.

and Barry Hunter, and the other ex-Man City scouts......if they wer enot good enough for City, then why would they be good enough for Liverpool.

Reminds of the era when we had Joe Corrigan as our goalkeeping coach......and I was always perplexed as to why.

Pascoe has the coaching badges and the know how. Anyway how do you correlate whether a coach who has the badges, know how and experience is good enough or not compared to other coaches. Pascoe isn't the problem here.

Man City didn't dump their scouts to us - we took them from City. City wanted to keep them.
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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1466 on: April 17, 2015, 03:19:49 PM »
Quote from: Edward224 on April 17, 2015, 01:37:50 PM
Pascoe has the coaching badges and the know how. Anyway how do you correlate whether a coach who has the badges, know how and experience is good enough or not compared to other coaches. Pascoe isn't the problem here.

On 31 May 2012, Liverpool took Swansea City's fab four - manager Brendan Rodgers, assistant manager Colin Pascoe, opposition performance analyst Chris Davies and performance consultant Glen Driscoll.



Colin Pascoe (above) Assistant Manager




Chris Davies (above) joined Liverpool as head of opposition analysis




Glen Driscoll (above) Head of performance


Even ignoring their CV's, and the fact they have won feck all of any significance (save for the Play-Off Championship final aganst Reading), just look at their photos.

These are mere kids.  What experience could they possibly bring to a top premiership club?






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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1467 on: April 17, 2015, 03:26:08 PM »
Quote from: Edward224 on April 17, 2015, 01:37:50 PM
Man City didn't dump their scouts to us - we took them from City. City wanted to keep them.



And the youngster, Barry Hunter, chief scout.......what experience does he bring to the club?

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Re: Season 2014/15
« Reply #1468 on: April 17, 2015, 03:32:02 PM »


THIS IS WHAT EXPERIENCE LOOKS LIKE
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« Reply #1469 on: April 17, 2015, 03:33:05 PM »
but experience, and success, costs money.
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