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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2016, 09:13:12 PM »
Can't say how disheartening this transfer window
We need an upgrade in midfield and spend our time chasing an average polish midfielder who hasn't done anything........finally he seems going elsewhere and now this Wijnaldum story breaks. Wijnaldum is bloody useless and we will finish 7th/8th yet again and wonder what the problem is.

Well the problem is we need a damned upgrade in central midfield and we have the money and Klopp so what is happening? Chelsea show ambition and get Kante who will transform their midfield and make them title contenders in just that one signing alone.

If it takes £40m to sign Dahoud who is clearly a level above our midfielders, will be an upgrade and a future ELITE player SPEND THE DAMNED MONEY!!!!!!!! Make it impossible for Gladbach to turn down.

But no instead we'll spend £20m on a shed player in Wijnaldum, have the same problem of an unproductive midfield and still have the same problem again next year.

Disappointed. What a lack of ambition we are showing this summer.

My prediction is we will finish 8th or 9th. Man C, Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs have infinitely better teams than us. West Ham, Everton, Stoke are our competitiors next season.

They say dogs resemble their owners, maybe it's true of football clubs and their owners. There's no doubting the ambition of Abramovich, but can we really say the same of our's?

I wonder whether the problem is the difference in the way we recruit in football and how it's done in baseball, and the idea of 'transfer fees' as opposed to drafts, really sticks in FSG's collective craw.

Committing half heartedly to transfer dealings is proving more expensive and disproportionately less successful than if we committed wholly.  Lesser teams' best players are disproportionately more expensive.

Maybe Klopp is seeing our owners in the same light as we are:

http://live4liverpool.com/2016/07/lfc-news/jurgen-klopp-talks-about-the-cut-throat-nature/
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #91 on: July 21, 2016, 03:00:31 PM »
£15m for Ibe - Take it and run!!!

Advice taken. It's good to see our owners are starting to take advice from credible sources now.  ;D
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #92 on: July 21, 2016, 03:32:13 PM »
But no instead we'll spend £20m on a shed player in Wijnaldum, have the same problem of an unproductive midfield and still have the same problem again next year.

If only. It's looking like £25M+.

I wouldn't call Wijnaldum 'shed', but he's so hot and cold, and apparently doesn't turn up away from home.

Surely our priorities lie elsewhere. Left back and a defensive midfielder for starters, and some real creativity from deep wouldn't go amiss.

Surely Wijnaldum isn't being signed to play as one of the two midfielders in front of the back four, and surely we've got enough options for the attacking 3 behind the striker, if that's how Klopp's going to play most of the season.

£25M, when the Barcodes paid £14.5M, for a player who may as well not be on the coach to away games seems crazy. Southampton and Newcastle must love us. Hopefully, once Ayre's gone, we'll get someone who can actually negotiate transfer deals in our favour.

I can't understand why we insist on shopping in the PL. There's no value, and so-called PL ready players still struggle with the step up in expectation, so we don't avoid problems of them adapting anyway.
You only have to look at the players other so called 'lesser' teams sign, the fees they pay and then the fees they receive after a season or two.

I guess Chelsea and the Mancs are still seen as CL clubs, even though they'll both be missing from it this season, so we've got to build things in 3 stages:
1. Building a team that can finish in the top four.
2. Improve on that so we create a team that finishes top four each season, as a minimum expectation.
3. Improve on that so we create a team that can challenge for the title.

At the moment it's hard to see us having a strong enough squad to finish in any European place.

Maybe we're going to have to get European football through cup competitions until we can build a squad strong enough to qualify through the league, but reaching a final and basing you're entire season on one game is dicey, as last season showed.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #93 on: July 21, 2016, 07:37:14 PM »
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/688527/Liverpool-news-Crystal-Palace-Christian-Benteke-agent-reveals-deal-not-happening-transfers

ruddy ell - will we never get rid of Benteke and Balatelli.

*hitting head against the wall, a million times*

Inter Milan eye move for Liverpool striker: Jurgen Klopp doesn’t want him at Anfield

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/692001/Liverpool-Inter-Milan-unwanted-Mario-Balotelli-transfer-news-gossip

I'd not ask for a transfer fee off Inter as long as Balotelli doesn't want the remaining two years of his contract paid up. Surely Inter could come to some arrangement with Balotelli as they'd have no transfer fee, and the extra outlay could be paid over the term of his contract, rather than a transfer fee having to be paid over a shorter time.

Please, somebody, anybody, take him.

I notice Celtic haven't been linked, surprise, surprise.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #94 on: July 21, 2016, 07:50:59 PM »
Looks like Joe Allen is off to Stoke for £13.5M.

I couldn't care less that he's only got 1 year left on his contract. After Sissoko's transfer 'value' has rocketed to £35m, purely on the back of a few reasonably reasonable performances at the Euros and a few powerful bursts forward in the first half of the final, surely we could have got our original £15m outlay back, at least, allowing for this Summer's ridiculous transfer inflation and his sterling performances at the Euros and his selection in the team of the competition etc.

We well and truly get 'spit roasted' where transfers are concerned.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #95 on: July 21, 2016, 11:54:43 PM »
Rumours are going about that Flanno may be going out on loan for the season, especially as he hasn't gone on the US tour.

On the one hand it may be good if he gets a season of first team football and gets his fitness back properly after such a long time out, however, on the other hand we have no cover/competition for Clyne worth the name, and as we're yet to sign a left back, it looks like Moreno is definitely staying, Gomez, who can play there is injured and will need careful re-introduction anyway, and so that leaves Brad Smith.

Our fullback positions are arguably the weakest area of the squad, and yet the few players we've been linked with, and bid for (in the case of Chilwell) hardly suggest much of an improvement, if at all.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2016, 09:47:42 AM »
I have to say that I am looking forward to the new season.

Sadio Mane, Georginio Wijnaldum, Joel Matip, etc all have the potential to be very good buys.

Sadio Mane is IMHO the best of our recent raids on Southampton.  Tremendous potential.

Wijnaldum was very good for PSV and for his country.  And he did well last year in a team fighting relegation.  OK, he didn't do much away from home - but then again, neither did his team mates.

The common thread that I see, re ins and outs....is that Klopp is bringing in more attack-minded midfielders.

That is to be welcomed.  We are going to see more goal threat from the middle of the park - and more offensive industry.   We need to see these new lads gel....and gel quickly.  We have a lot of hard games to start this new season.

Yes, we haven't spent massive monies, like United or City.  But we know all too well, that spending big money offers no guarantees.

Like all of us, I will be mighty relieved when Klopp brings in a top left back.  Hector would be an interesting buy.

But I think moving Benteke on, will give us some funds, to do some more work in the market.  Important to get him and Balotelli out of Anfield.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2016, 03:49:23 PM »
Speaking to Dutch publication De Telegraaf, Dirk Kuyt revealed that this would see Liverpool secure a long-term target, with the club scouting Wijnaldum during his time on the books.

“[It is] a wonderful transfer for Gini,” Kuyt said.

“The best compliment for him is that, in my time at Liverpool, his name buzzed around the club. He was [acknowledged] by the scouts already in his youth at Feyenoord as a very great talent. When I played for Liverpool, I frequently heard them say that he would be a wonderful asset one day.”

Wijnaldum spent seven years with Feyenoord before joining PSV Eindhoven in 2011, and after scoring 56 goals in 154 games for the Eredivisie club, moved to Newcastle in 2015. The Magpies paid £14.5 million for his services, and following his 11-goal Premier League haul in 2015/16, have seen his value almost double.

Kuyt believes this will prove great value for a resurgent Reds: “He is now at a top club in England and he belongs at home.”  Klopp wants to take Liverpool all the way up again.

“I myself was at [Liverpool’s] semi-final [against Villarreal] in the Europa League and then I noticed that something is growing. That Klopp sees a place for Gini is nice for the player.

“I know him well, he did fine [at the World Cup] in Brazil, [where I] also played with him.

“He is not only a good player, but also a player
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2016, 03:52:28 PM »
the 'lungs of a horse' description is interesting.

Klopp seems to be pushing forward, and demanding more effort and quicker attacks.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #99 on: July 23, 2016, 10:53:25 PM »
Taken from: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/klopp-hails-100-backing-liverpool-11655814

Left-back is the one area where Klopp is still keen to bolster his ranks.
Ryan Kent and Jon Flanagan are among those expected to go out on loan.
as he revealed there could be one more signing to complete his summer recruitment drive.

So that leaves us short of the specialist defensive midfielder. Can, as yet, maybe never, is not the answer, Lucas looks like he's on his way, as does Joe Allen.

Plus, if Flanno goes out on loan, where's the cover for Clyne? Randall, Wisdom? Neither are good enough.
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« Reply #100 on: July 24, 2016, 06:35:33 PM »
Brad Smith off to Bournemouth for £6M, complete with buy back clause, and we're being heavily linked with Jetro Willems of PSV to replace him.

Overall, we would have strengthened the left back position, but I'm not really sure we'd have strengthened the defensive side of it.

4-3 to the Reds will become the new '1-0 to the Arsenal'.

If no defensive midfielder is brought in, and Joe Allen leaves, then we have to hang on to Lucas. Can and Hendo sitting in front of the back four? Hhhmmm. Not so sure I like the idea of that.
Milner's attacking threat would be wasted using him there. Is Kevin Stewart really ready yet? I don't think so.

Our midfield's still going to have a very soft centre to it.

With Lucas missing the Arsenal game through injury and Can not back in training after the Euros, our midfield is looking threadbare for the Arsenal game, and we can't afford to be playing catch up on them after 1 game.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #101 on: July 24, 2016, 06:41:02 PM »
Even if we had our best team out we'd still lost to Arsenal as we always lose (well most of the time) At Arsenal so we will be playing catch up.

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« Reply #102 on: July 24, 2016, 06:49:12 PM »
I'm filled with great optimism for the season ahead.

We have one of the world's finest young managers (plus a great new Anfield).  And we have transformed a squad, with 7 new additions.  We just need a left back....and time to gel and get a balance.

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« Reply #103 on: July 24, 2016, 10:22:01 PM »
Even if we had our best team out we'd still lost to Arsenal as we always lose (well most of the time) At Arsenal so we will be playing catch up.

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« Reply #104 on: July 24, 2016, 10:24:22 PM »
the 'lungs of a horse' description is interesting.

As long as they're not Shergar's.  ;D
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