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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #120 on: July 31, 2016, 09:10:55 AM »
we have a top manager, a top stadium, and some great new pacy goal-scoring midfielder additions, and no european football to distract us.

game on!
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #121 on: August 01, 2016, 05:19:39 AM »
we have a top manager, a top stadium, and some great new pacy goal-scoring midfielder additions, and no european football to distract us.

game on!

Just need a left back and a specialist defensive midfielder and "we're good to go".

Leicester and Portugal proved it's truly a team game.

It could be a really interesting time.

Arsenal have to end their top four run without proper strengthening, some time. Has Mourinho lost his touch?
Will Conte and Guardiola 'get' the PL? Were West Ham a 'flash in the pan'? Likewise Leicester. Will Southampton continue their recent seasons' achievements with yet another manager? Will Spurs build on last season or fall away? Who will be this season's 'over achievers'? Will 'the Moyesiah' finally take Sunderland down?
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #122 on: August 01, 2016, 12:04:31 PM »
Sorry dude this season I think we are going to swap roles in you being the optimist and me the pessimist!!

Apart from Karius and Mane who I believe will be fantastic for us I believe just spend a load of money on either average players or weak/fragile mentality players.

Wijnaldum is average - sorry but he is. He has shown last season he has a weak mentality and if things aren't going right he won't fight for the team. Weak. That plus 11 goals (4 in one game) so really 7 goals all at home.....away from home he's a liability.

Matip - good player but really not a great player however an improvement on Skrtel and Toure so good signing.

Mane - My favourite signing because of his pace and strength but he is inconsistent so he needs to fix that.

Manninger - fulfils the role required so no problem.

Grujic - one for the future

Klavan - Another average signing but at least he is cheap.

We have failed to address our weaknesses mainly at left back and central midfield.

With this current squad I can't see no way no how we finish in the top 6. Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs have superior teams. West Ham have the better player out of both teams in Payet (Coutinho will have to match Payet's consistency to take that accolade), Stoke have a decent team and the likes of Everton and Leicester will be our competitors.

We have never failed to finish outside the top 8 since we gained promotion in 1962. However I am really concerned that this is going to happen for us this upcoming season.



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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #123 on: August 01, 2016, 01:13:30 PM »
Just need a left back and a specialist defensive midfielder and "we're good to go".

Leicester and Portugal proved it's truly a team game.

It could be a really interesting time.

Arsenal have to end their top four run without proper strengthening, some time. Has Mourinho lost his touch?
Will Conte and Guardiola 'get' the PL? Were West Ham a 'flash in the pan'? Likewise Leicester. Will Southampton continue their recent seasons' achievements with yet another manager? Will Spurs build on last season or fall away? Who will be this season's 'over achievers'? Will 'the Moyesiah' finally take Sunderland down?

all these questions and more, will be answered on this week's edition of SOAP.  (showing my age, hope someone gets my american tv show reference)    :)

yes, a real interesting season awaits.

I think it is probably a season too early, for Klopp to have all his ducks in a row, for a title charge.  But who knows.

We will see how quickly he can get the team to gel - and most importantly, balance it.


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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #124 on: August 01, 2016, 01:25:30 PM »
Sorry dude this season I think we are going to swap roles in you being the optimist and me the pessimist!!

I believe just spend a load of money on either average players or weak/fragile mentality players.

Wijnaldum is average - sorry but he is. He has shown last season he has a weak mentality and if things aren't going right he won't fight for the team. Weak. That plus 11 goals (4 in one game) so really 7 goals all at home.....away from home he's a liability.

Matip - good player but really not a great player however an improvement on Skrtel and Toure so good signing.

Mane - My favourite signing because of his pace and strength but he is inconsistent so he needs to fix that.

Manninger - fulfils the role required so no problem.

Grujic - one for the future

Klavan - Another average signing but at least he is cheap.

We have failed to address our weaknesses mainly at left back and central midfield.

With this current squad I can't see no way no how we finish in the top 6. Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs have superior teams. West Ham have the better player out of both teams in Payet (Coutinho will have to match Payet's consistency to take that accolade), Stoke have a decent team and the likes of Everton and Leicester will be our competitors.

We have never failed to finish outside the top 8 since we gained promotion in 1962. However I am really concerned that this is going to happen for us this upcoming season.

 ;D

now I am the optimist and you the pessimist.

Mane - agreed, good signing.

Matip - I think will be a very good buy.

You think Wijnaldum is average.  But remember, he was in a dire team that got relegated - it was also his first season in the premiership.  Nobody else performed in that Newcastle side.  His goal return was probably good for such a scenario.

Grujic is still a kid - but he has been awesome in these first games.  A really bright future I hope.

You can't see us finish in the top six.  I think we will breeze into the top 6....and go higher.

I wish our owners had sacked Rodgers after the final game, the 6-1 loss to Stoke.  Klopp would have had more time.  I think this season has maybe come too early, for a genuine title charge.  He has to gel and balance the side.  But we have got a top manager - the best since Rafa.  Who knows what we can achieve this season. 

It may be Keeganesque heavy metal we see (with us conceding a fair few goals).  Or, with the right left back, we might start to find a balance.   

Klopp has taken the negativity out of our midfield - and replaced folk with no end prodduct, with midfielders who know how to score.   Lalalahana being the exception.  I think Klopp will heavily rotate our midfielders, in order to maintain fast paced heavy metal football.

May you live in interesting times  and we do.   :)
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2016, 01:17:20 AM »
We have failed to address our weaknesses mainly at left back and central midfield.

That's the biggest puzzle.

Surely they were two of the top three priorities, yet our 'pursuit', if you can call it that, seems as poor as when we tried to replace Suarez.

What is it that we're not seeing about Moreno?

Surely we can't go through the season with a two man axis from Can, Hendo and Wijnaldum.

Why is it we splash hugely on 'attackers', yet scrimp like Scrooge, when it comes to the defensive side of the team?

Hector's rumoured now as being 'overpriced' by the Echo.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/klopp-ponders-new-liverpool-signing-11697022

"Germany international Jonas Hector has repeatedly been linked with Liverpool this summer but the ECHO understands that a move for the FC Koln left-back is highly unlikely. The Reds don’t believe he’s worth the £20million price tag."
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #126 on: August 03, 2016, 02:22:09 PM »
yes, I saw those reports today that the club feels Hector is over-valued at 20 million....and thus are not interested.

maybe Milner is a fall-back for now - maybe Klopp cannot find another left-back that he is keenly interested in, at this moment in time.

I would have thought a priority.

Moreno is not good enough - end of story.   I'm not even convinced that he is good enough as cover.



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« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2016, 11:15:09 PM »
yes, I saw those reports today that the club feels Hector is over-valued at 20 million....and thus are not interested.

maybe Milner is a fall-back for now - maybe Klopp cannot find another left-back that he is keenly interested in, at this moment in time.

I would have thought a priority.

Moreno is not good enough - end of story.   I'm not even convinced that he is good enough as cover.

I'd have preferred to see Moreno sold this Summer and replaced by a proper left back. With Brad Smith also being sold, I don't understand weakening the squad, even though £6m was a good fee for Smith, it wasn't worth weakening the squad so much for a mere £6m. We should be seeing 2 left backs arrive.

It's one thing moving Milner there if necessity dictates during a match, but to play him there for more than that, or see him as a second choice left back, is asking for trouble.

I just don't understand the attitude of paying £50m+ on Mane and Wijnaldum, yet 'making do' to the degree we seem to be with the left back position.
As we've always said, strong teams are built on strong defences, and for that you have to have quality in each position. I'm not saying spend record breaking amounts, but buy quality all the same.

I don't know anything about Chilwall, and have never seen him play, but considering that Arsenal bid for him in January, and we've bid for him this Summer, he must have something going for him. Klopp obviously rates him above Smith, and good enough to challenge Moreno, so I'd rather have seen us up our £7m bid to £8m + £2m in add ons, getting somewhere near what Leicester wanted, when we received the £6m offer for Smith. I know we don't want to be paying over the odds (any more than we already do), but sometimes a priority or approach has to change if a situation alters, and therefore requires it.

Holding on to a lead is just as important as obtaining that lead in the first place.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #128 on: August 04, 2016, 02:55:00 PM »
Zielinski set to join Napoli

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/zielinski-set-join-napoli


Thankfully.
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« Reply #129 on: August 04, 2016, 04:38:32 PM »
Jurgen Klopp refuses to green light Liverpool deal: German evaluating his options

JURGEN KLOPP will not allow Lucas Leiva to leave Liverpool until the club's defensive injury crisis eases.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/535349/Liverpool-Transfer-News-Lucas-Leiva-stay-Jurgen-Klopp-defensive-injury-problems

Can he play left back?  ;D

I don't mind him staying especially if he gets some games alongside Can, Grujic, Wijnaldum or whoever plays in front of the back four, as a defensive midfielder seems totally absent from this Summer's shopping list.
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« Reply #130 on: August 04, 2016, 04:42:16 PM »
Barcelona star, Thomas Vermaelen has offer on the table from Liverpool - reports

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/535354/Liverpool-transfer-news-Thomas-Vermaelen-Barcelona-ex-Arsenal-man-offer

Why? Unless the physio's are complaining of being under worked.
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« Reply #131 on: August 04, 2016, 04:50:37 PM »
Meanwhile, as we refuse to meet Hector's £20m asking price:

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/08/rumour-mill-gremio-reject-liverpools-approach-striker-luan-guilherme/

http://sportwitness.co.uk/e40m-liverpool-bid-confirmed-klopp-set-go-even-get-man/ and http://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/liverpool/liverpool-eyeing-seventh-summer-signing-33-9m-bid-to-be-upped

Yet again, I've lost track of what our Summer transfer policy is. Anyone care to offer an explanation?  ;D

Whilst we have only one, useless, and currently injured left back, we're looking to add further to our strikers and midfielders.

I hope come September 1st everything will become crystal clear, and have made perfect sense to us all.
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« Reply #132 on: August 04, 2016, 05:00:05 PM »
Liverpool transfer news: Ajax considering move for Reds flop Mario Balotelli

http://talksport.com/football/liverpool-transfer-news-ajax-considering-move-reds-flop-mario-balotelli-160804205235

Just don't ask for a fee, as long as Balotelli doesn't get his contract paid up, and we're not expected to subsidise his Ajax contract.

Though with Mino Raiola as his agent it'll be difficult to get that agreed to - he'll want his entire remaining contract paid up, and us to make up any difference between what we're currently paying him and what Ajax would pay him over the entire term of his first contract with them. He's currently under contract with us until 30th June 2018:'(
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #133 on: August 04, 2016, 06:10:13 PM »
It is quite obvious Klopp believes he can work on Moreno and improve him - so we shall see.

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
« Reply #134 on: August 04, 2016, 08:36:20 PM »
maybe he can't easily get hold of the specific left back that he wants.

maybe he is biding his time.

maybe the guys we wanted, refused to come to Anfield.


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