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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #195 on: February 13, 2017, 10:49:30 PM »
And Brendan's been talking about his favourite subject, apart from himself, of course:

'There is maybe an issue with scouts' - Brendan Rodgers has a dig at Liverpool as he reveals Virgil van Dijk snub

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/liverpool/there-is-maybe-an-issue-with-scouts-brendan-rodgers-has-a-dig-at-liverpool-as-he-reveals-virgil-van-dijk-snub-35447115.html

Sometimes I wonder what the team would have looked like if Rodgers had been free to make all 'his' buys, or the transfer committee had been entirely responsible for supplying the players, and for Rodgers to just coach and fashion a team out of what he was given, instead of the 'falling between two stools' approach we followed when he was here.

Of course it's easy for him to come out and claim he wanted certain players after they've become a success in the PL with other clubs, as the club don't make a habit of coming out and responding to any of his claimed 'targets'.
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #196 on: February 13, 2017, 11:28:23 PM »
Guardiola learned from Arsenal and Liverpool results

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38960380


It's the sign of a shrewd manager.

I hope Klopp is looking at other teams' results as well as our own in order to learn how better to approach games for next season. He's had two December/January periods now, and again I hope he understands and learns better for next season how to deal with it, and 'pace' us better for an entire season. Additionally, hopefully he's learned that the art of defending is very much required in this league and that he can't assemble any entire section of the team on a shoestring.
Yes, the occasional bargain will work, but proper money has to be spent overall on each part of the team. 
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #197 on: February 18, 2017, 11:52:32 PM »
Barcelona eyeing Jurgen Klopp as Liverpool boss emerges as contender to replace Luis Enrique

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/barcelona-eyeing-jurgen-klopp-liverpool-9846695


FSG's shortlist in no particular order:

Paul Clement
Eddie Howe
Brendan Rodgers - when he wins the Scottish Premier by more than 30 points, they'll think they made a mistake and get him back.

They'll demand a huge compensation payment because of the length of Klopp's contract, thinking that the money they save on the new manager's contract vs what they'd have paid Klopp, plus the compensation, will see them make a profit on the deal. Additionally they'd see a likely huge profit on the sale of Coutinho to Barca, over what they paid Inter for him.
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #198 on: February 20, 2017, 12:40:56 AM »



I know most people have one foot bigger than the other, but this is just seriously wrong. How on earth is he going to fit that foot into the boot he has in his hand? Hasn't anyone at the club spotted the problem?  ;D
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #199 on: February 25, 2017, 11:06:35 PM »
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #200 on: February 26, 2017, 03:36:34 PM »



I know most people have one foot bigger than the other, but this is just seriously wrong. How on earth is he going to fit that foot into the boot he has in his hand? Hasn't anyone at the club spotted the problem?  ;D

 :D

spot our two wingers.

the right winger (above left) has a long right foot (covered in black sock).

and the left winger (above right) has a long left foot (white sock).

This Krafty Klopp fellow sure has brought a lot of his European ideas to Anfield.

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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #201 on: February 26, 2017, 03:47:17 PM »
Mignolet

What Next? Gardeners Weekly - Simon Mignolet on how to lay the perfect lawn from seed.

 ;D

I suspect we won't be seeing him in the magazine, Great Keeping, any time soon.

Deliciously ironic, if we replaced him with the Leicester keeper, Scheimchel, this summer.

As for our lad's stupid words ahead of the game on Monday night.

I always reflect back on Bob Paisley's smart outlook, of giving the opposition a wee bit of toffee, prior to a game.   Smart folk do that. 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/the-tie-that-turned-fergie-into-anfields-worst-enemy-2233544.html

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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #202 on: February 27, 2017, 08:12:47 PM »
A rather, hmmm, not sure what to describe it as:

Liverpool stars left 'depressed' with Jurgen Klopp’s night time training schedule

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-stars-left-depressed-jurgen-9925096

It's built around the words of 'the source' and 'one of European football's most respected fitness specialists', who isn't even named.

I wonder if Klopp has one of his priceless reactions for 'fake news'.
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #203 on: February 28, 2017, 12:02:42 PM »
Disappointing though hardly a surprising result against Leicester. What is upsetting though, is we managed to pull off the worst display of the season when we needed to build on that fine win against Spurs. Build confidence, slowly working our way back from that disastrous January in order to finishing in the top 4 with room to spare setting us up nicely ahead of the next season (always next season, innit?).

Instead the feeling present during Rodgers' final weeks are setting in. Difficult questions have to be asked:

*Was the 2 years of success at Dortmund a one off?
*Why haven't any improvements been made in our defensive game?
*How can we play the best football the PL has seen this season one week and a fortnight later Leicester couldn't have beaten any other team as easily as they beat us?
* How come Mané and Coutinho perform so badly for the past 2-3 months? Why rely so heavily on the very average and hugely overrated Firmino?
*Why is it Klopp cannot get the team fired up for games against the "lesser" sides than the top teams?
* Is there a plan B, and if so what does it look like?

I've said this before. When Klopp decided to dith Sakho I got the same feeling as when Mourinho ditched that female doctor - something's breaking here. Klopp has put up with average performances from many players this season. Take last night for example. Their first goal was all Firmino's fault. Time and again this season his reckless handling of the ball has led to goals for the opposition or at least allowed them to create chances. At the other end he missed more open chances than any other player in the PL. His contribution is negligable yet he's one of the first names on Klopp's team sheet. At the same time our only natural leader with the ability to play the ball out of defence was ditched for minor disciplinary oversteps in the close season.

The bottom-line is that Klopp is willingly or unwillingly sending clear signals to the squad mediocrity is OK as long as you're a well combed and well behaved lad.

I don't see a way out of this hole for Klopp, but equally I don't see a way forward without him. Maybe this is final proof we have become a mid-table club?

Hope and faith is gone and it'll take forever to restor it. It is what it is but it hurts as fukc.
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #204 on: March 01, 2017, 10:49:30 PM »
Watching Liverpool is like "Groundhog Day". Highly motivated and energised against the "bigger" teams, weak and disinterested against the so-called "smaller teams"
When the pressure is on, when the tough need to get going, Liverpool more often than not go missing.This is not a recent problem. We have seen the same thing for nearly thirty years.


All this led me to think about what Mr Klopp had asked of us all at the beginning of his tenure. To become believers rather than doubters. But to believe in what? Now. That is THE question.

Believe that he is the best placed manager to lead us- the most capable, motivated,charismatic and driven leader? I certainly do.

Believe in the group of players at his disposal? No chance. We have some good players but not enough. Mindset and mentality are more important than ability and this group of players have some of the former but not much of the latter.

Believe that the ownership of Liverpool FC have a driving desire to see this club again residing at the top table of Football. To bankroll the purchase of world class talent? To nurture and develop a thriving youth system? To invest in a champion infrastructure? To build a senior management team of football savvy world class leaders? I doubt it - I think they are happy being Arsenal light.......

Klopp was as close to dejected as I've ever seen him on Monday.  I think he's realising what he has to deal with.


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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #205 on: March 01, 2017, 10:51:59 PM »
Rafa might be available in the summer.
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #206 on: March 02, 2017, 11:36:19 PM »
Rafa might be available in the summer.

So might Klopp:

For the first time, Klopp has admitted he fears Liverpool sack

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2017/02/28/for-the-first-time-klopp-has-admitted-he-fears-liverpool-sack/

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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #207 on: March 02, 2017, 11:40:57 PM »
What Ancelotti told FSG when they spoke to him about Liverpool job is truer than ever…

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2017/03/02/what-ancelotti-told-fsg-when-they-spoke-to-him-about-liverpool-job-is-truer-than-ever/


From a year ago:

Carlo Ancelotti admits he would’ve taken Liverpool job and names our best players

http://www.empireofthekop.com/2015/11/12/carlo-ancelotti-admits-he-wouldve-taken-liverpool-job-and-names-our-best-players/


This isn't a clamour for another manager, but a Plan B would be nice.
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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #208 on: March 03, 2017, 04:25:51 PM »
I loved both Rafa and Ancelotti. 

Both very good managers.   World class.

Ancelotti was right, re us needing to buy a new spine.   

I was over the moon with Klopp - believing that he had other tactics and plans.  I was alarmed in December and early January, to learn that he seems to have only one tactic.  And our one trick pony has been caught on.

Why did he not upgrade our defence in the summer.   Why play Lucas in central defence.  And if he insists on playing Lucas there - why in under feck, would we then play a defensive high line?   Madness - especially when against speed merchants. like Vardy.

We enjoy success against the big teams, playing defensive counter-attacking football - where we have less possession.

We get beaten against lesser sides, because despite having 65 to 70 % plus possession, we play such a high line, as to be easily counter-attacked. 

And anyway, when we play lesser sides, we play such a high line - as to make the opposition's half look like Picadilly Circus - that is, totally congested.    How in under goodness, can our speed merchant (like Mane) have space to run into, when we insist on congesting the oppositon's half.

This is 101 Tactics. 

To keep making the same mistake, makes me have major reservations about Jurgen Klopp.

Let the Burnley's, Leicesters, and Hull's of this world have the ball, and possession, and invite them on to us.   

Klopp needs to sort himself out.

Start building a proper team - with a focus primarily on not conceding.

Otherwise, he's just a German Keegan.....and we are playing Newcastle football circa 1996.









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Re: Season 2016/17
« Reply #209 on: March 04, 2017, 08:02:05 PM »
Good win today, though less surprising than if we put Burnley to the sword in our next game. Then it's Man City away, so we can probably expect a 'bounce back' again after the Burnley game.

There is then Everton and Bournemouth at home, followed by Stoke and WBA away, so anything from 3-12 points is a possibilty from those four games.

Bad news is the last two games of the season are West Ham away and finishing with Boro at home. Could we bear it if we need 4 points from those two to guarantee a top four finish?
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