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« Reply #420 on: October 30, 2010, 08:49:54 PM »
Unless we beat Bolton tomorrow Henry might just well be flying in to give roy the bullet. Fingers crossed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1325214/Roy-Hodgson-desperate-sign-new-striker-Liverpool.html


Roy Hodgson desperate to sign a new striker for Liverpool

By Joe Bernstein Last updated at 8:04 PM on 30th October 2010

Liverpool owner John W Henry will fly in this week to discuss January transfer targets with Roy Hodgson, who has revealed the club are so short of strikers he cannot even hold proper practice matches.

Henry, whose £300million purchase of Liverpool earlier this month almost certainly saved the club from administration, will jet in from Boston for his first proper face-to-face talks with Hodgson about transfer policy and plans to stay in England to take in Sunday's clash against Chelsea, his first Premier League game at Anfield.

 Short of back-up: Fernando Torres need a reliable strike partner
Hodgson, under pressure with Liverpool travelling to Bolton today still in the bottom three despite a win against Blackburn, will be desperate for a good result at the Reebok to help his case with Henry.
The Liverpool manager will ask that a new striker to cover for Fernando Torres is made top priority having failed to sign one in the summer under previous owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.
Hodgson only has Torres and David Ngog in his first-team squad and he said: 'That's clearly not enough. A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel "doing a job" up front when they are primarily wide players.

'We have the same problem with the reserves. We don't have any strikers and a winger called Nathan Ecclestone has to play up front.

'In training, I can't have practice games where each team plays a 4-4-2 because I don't have the front players to do that.'
Hodgson accepts that the new owners are unlikely to splash out £20million on a striker in January, even if the right player was available, but hopes to land up to three acquisitions to bolster the squad.
'There is more chance of a striker coming in this window because we had no money last time. Everything was so convoluted with the ownership issue,' he added. 'The first thing people say when I walk down the street is "We need a front player". They can't all be wrong and we aren't that stupid either.'

Liverpool have been linked with Hungarian striker Adam Szala, of Mainz, and Roma front man Mirko Vucinic.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1325214/Roy-Hodgson-desperate-sign-new-striker-Liverpool.html#ixzz13sD8Jxvd

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Re: The Roy Hodgson Thread
« Reply #421 on: October 30, 2010, 09:36:55 PM »
Unless we beat Bolton tomorrow Henry might just well be flying in to give roy the bullet. Fingers crossed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1325214/Roy-Hodgson-desperate-sign-new-striker-Liverpool.html


Roy Hodgson desperate to sign a new striker for Liverpool

By Joe Bernstein Last updated at 8:04 PM on 30th October 2010

Liverpool owner John W Henry will fly in this week to discuss January transfer targets with Roy Hodgson, who has revealed the club are so short of strikers he cannot even hold proper practice matches.

Henry, whose £300million purchase of Liverpool earlier this month almost certainly saved the club from administration, will jet in from Boston for his first proper face-to-face talks with Hodgson about transfer policy and plans to stay in England to take in Sunday's clash against Chelsea, his first Premier League game at Anfield.

 Short of back-up: Fernando Torres need a reliable strike partner
Hodgson, under pressure with Liverpool travelling to Bolton today still in the bottom three despite a win against Blackburn, will be desperate for a good result at the Reebok to help his case with Henry.
The Liverpool manager will ask that a new striker to cover for Fernando Torres is made top priority having failed to sign one in the summer under previous owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.
Hodgson only has Torres and David Ngog in his first-team squad and he said: 'That's clearly not enough. A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel "doing a job" up front when they are primarily wide players.

'We have the same problem with the reserves. We don't have any strikers and a winger called Nathan Ecclestone has to play up front.

'In training, I can't have practice games where each team plays a 4-4-2 because I don't have the front players to do that.'
Hodgson accepts that the new owners are unlikely to splash out £20million on a striker in January, even if the right player was available, but hopes to land up to three acquisitions to bolster the squad.
'There is more chance of a striker coming in this window because we had no money last time. Everything was so convoluted with the ownership issue,' he added. 'The first thing people say when I walk down the street is "We need a front player". They can't all be wrong and we aren't that stupid either.'

Liverpool have been linked with Hungarian striker Adam Szala, of Mainz, and Roma front man Mirko Vucinic.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1325214/Roy-Hodgson-desperate-sign-new-striker-Liverpool.html#ixzz13sD8Jxvd

"A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel "doing a job" up front when they are primarily wide players. :o  Excuse my ignorance but isn't Dirk Kuyt a striker "doing a job" as a wide player and Babel regards himself as a striker? I'll give him Babel , but Dirk?

"We don't have any strikers and a winger called Nathan Ecclestone has to play up front." - He sounds like he's talking about someone else's club, not the one he's manager of. He doesn't sound as though he's awfully familiar with Nathan Ecclestone.

And Pacheco? What about him, Roy? No, he's not 'a bit small for a centre half', Roy.

It must be really hard for Roy to eat when his foot appears to be permanently in his mouth.  ::)
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« Reply #422 on: October 30, 2010, 10:30:46 PM »
"A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel "doing a job" up front when they are primarily wide players. :o  Excuse my ignorance but isn't Dirk Kuyt a striker "doing a job" as a wide player and Babel regards himself as a striker? I'll give him Babel , but Dirk?

"We don't have any strikers and a winger called Nathan Ecclestone has to play up front." - He sounds like he's talking about someone else's club, not the one he's manager of. He doesn't sound as though he's awfully familiar with Nathan Ecclestone.

And Pacheco? What about him, Roy? No, he's not 'a bit small for a centre half', Roy.

It must be really hard for Roy to eat when his foot appears to be permanently in his mouth.  ::)

People accused Rafa of making excuses but Roy will be eventually be  going back and blaming  shankly at this rate. He is pulling every excuse out of the book. Rafas trainging and tactics have caused the likes of carra legs to go............

actually one thing that I notice Roy is trying to do, very cleverly might I add, hes heaping praise on Carra and Gerrard  because he knows the weight of influence they carry at the club. I just hope both players see through Roy although I wouldnt expect Crra to seeing as hes guaranteed his place

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Re: The Roy Hodgson Thread
« Reply #423 on: October 30, 2010, 10:42:17 PM »
managers usually start making excuses, and having a go at others, after 3 or 4 seasons.

but Roy is at it after only a few weeks at anfield.

this is a very bad sign.

I wish he'd friggen dry up at times.
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« Reply #424 on: October 30, 2010, 11:10:33 PM »
It's like Gerard Houllier and Rafa Benitez all rolled into one.  Who's next to be blamed, Don Welsh, Phil Taylor (no, not 'Philthy Animal').
It's like he's talking up the problems so that anything positive that happens seems like an amazing feat against the most impossible odds.

Remind, did we gain promotion last season by scraping into the playoffs on goal difference on the last day of the season and fluked our way through the playoffs and the final with a combination of own goals, massive deflections and dodgy penalties? For some stupid reason I seem to think we finished seventh and second the season before. The old memory's obviously getting worse than I thought.
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« Reply #425 on: October 30, 2010, 11:41:57 PM »
yes, he's playing games - knock everything and everyone else, so that he can be the hero (when he takes us out of the bottom three).

he must take us for being stupid.
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« Reply #426 on: October 31, 2010, 12:38:28 AM »
yes, he's playing games - knock everything and everyone else, so that he can be the hero (when he takes us out of the bottom three).

he must take us for being stupid.

It's also unbelievable how all the British managers come out in his defence, just before we play them:


Roy will succeed with Reds, says Coyle

5:50pm Saturday 30th October 2010


OWEN Coyle has warned critics to lay-off Roy Hodgson, even though Wanderers will be looking to turn the screw on Liverpool on Sunday.

With the odds against Hodgson lasting the distance under new owners at Anfield, Whites boss Coyle knows any result his side achieve at the Reebok could have an adverse effect on a coach he rates as one of the best in the game.

Liverpool, battle weary from months of boardroom upheaval, are entrenched in the bottom three after their worst start to a season for more than 50 years.

But while Coyle and his side will be seeking to extend their own impressive start, potentially breaking into the top five with victory, he has urged the Reds not to judge Hodgson until he has had chance to mould the squad in his own way.

“It really is a transitional period over there, so what really baffles and bewilders me is that Roy comes in for so much criticism,” the manager said.

“This is a man who, for me, is an elite coach among the very best in world football.

“He showed the quality he has last year at Fulham and won manager of the year and then within two months, people are saying he’s no good.

“This is a top class manager and given the time, he’ll bring Liverpool back to the heights where they are challenging for trophies.


Hodgson inherited a large squad from Rafa Benitez in the summer but has performed his rebuilding operation with a backdrop of major change, with former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jnr deposed only shortly before last weekend’s victory against Blackburn.

“It was always going to be difficult,” said Coyle. “Without going into what went on before, he came into a team on a downward spiral because of the way they finished last season.

“He had to get some freshness and that was always going to take time. You don’t come in and click your fingers and everything falls into place, particularly at a club that has always been known for challenging for top honours.

“People have to understand it’s a transitional period, especially with all the stuff going on off the field as well. Any manager craves time and I’m pretty sure that if he’s given it, they will reap the rewards.”

Fernando Torres got back on the goal trail with the winner last weekend, sparking suggestions that the worst of Liverpool’s form is now behind them.

And Coyle is well aware that the victory over Blackburn might have re-ignited tomorrow’s opponents.

“Football changes really quickly,” he said. “From all the doom and gloom that people were trying to perceive about the club – all of a sudden, you get that three points and you’re up and running again. Their sights are now on moving right up into that top half of the table.

“Of course, my focus is on keeping Bolton there. We’re at home and that has been a terrific effort collectively because the fans are really making sure it’s a good place to work in.

“We have to make sure we’re at our best on Sunday and I think, overall, Liverpool will know that they are in for a tough game.”


http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/wanderersnews/8484426.Roy_will_succeed_with_Reds__says_Coyle/

 :o

I've searched Google for this Roy Hodgson that Coyle's talking about and I can only find 'our' Roy Hodgson.
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Re: The Roy Hodgson Thread
« Reply #427 on: October 31, 2010, 01:38:31 AM »
they are all versed in sky-speak...........all that media traning they get............they spend hours spouting nothing of value.

oh for when football was a passionate sport, with personalities and folks who loved to speak their mind....ala brain clough.
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« Reply #428 on: October 31, 2010, 12:23:14 PM »
It's also unbelievable how all the British managers come out in his defence, just before we play them:


Roy will succeed with Reds, says Coyle

5:50pm Saturday 30th October 2010


OWEN Coyle has warned critics to lay-off Roy Hodgson, even though Wanderers will be looking to turn the screw on Liverpool on Sunday.

With the odds against Hodgson lasting the distance under new owners at Anfield, Whites boss Coyle knows any result his side achieve at the Reebok could have an adverse effect on a coach he rates as one of the best in the game.

Liverpool, battle weary from months of boardroom upheaval, are entrenched in the bottom three after their worst start to a season for more than 50 years.

But while Coyle and his side will be seeking to extend their own impressive start, potentially breaking into the top five with victory, he has urged the Reds not to judge Hodgson until he has had chance to mould the squad in his own way.

“It really is a transitional period over there, so what really baffles and bewilders me is that Roy comes in for so much criticism,” the manager said.

“This is a man who, for me, is an elite coach among the very best in world football.

“He showed the quality he has last year at Fulham and won manager of the year and then within two months, people are saying he’s no good.

“This is a top class manager and given the time, he’ll bring Liverpool back to the heights where they are challenging for trophies.


Hodgson inherited a large squad from Rafa Benitez in the summer but has performed his rebuilding operation with a backdrop of major change, with former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jnr deposed only shortly before last weekend’s victory against Blackburn.

“It was always going to be difficult,” said Coyle. “Without going into what went on before, he came into a team on a downward spiral because of the way they finished last season.

“He had to get some freshness and that was always going to take time. You don’t come in and click your fingers and everything falls into place, particularly at a club that has always been known for challenging for top honours.

“People have to understand it’s a transitional period, especially with all the stuff going on off the field as well. Any manager craves time and I’m pretty sure that if he’s given it, they will reap the rewards.”

Fernando Torres got back on the goal trail with the winner last weekend, sparking suggestions that the worst of Liverpool’s form is now behind them.

And Coyle is well aware that the victory over Blackburn might have re-ignited tomorrow’s opponents.

“Football changes really quickly,” he said. “From all the doom and gloom that people were trying to perceive about the club – all of a sudden, you get that three points and you’re up and running again. Their sights are now on moving right up into that top half of the table.

“Of course, my focus is on keeping Bolton there. We’re at home and that has been a terrific effort collectively because the fans are really making sure it’s a good place to work in.

“We have to make sure we’re at our best on Sunday and I think, overall, Liverpool will know that they are in for a tough game.”


http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/wanderersnews/8484426.Roy_will_succeed_with_Reds__says_Coyle/

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I've searched Google for this Roy Hodgson that Coyle's talking about and I can only find 'our' Roy Hodgson.

I just dont understand the way British managers stick up for other British managers. Nearly every manager that has come out and slated Benitez that is Fergie, Sam, Moyes, Bruce, Redknapp are the same guys who also have praised Roy. And they are all British. No chance of them saying a single word against each other. How can you slate one manager and blame him for Liverpools demise just because hes finished 7th yet priase another manager and as Coyle suggests that hes world class even though hes won nothing and he currently got the Liverpool team lying in 18th. I'd love to see Rafa back, new owners, no excuses and no handicap in terms  of cash.

As Ive suggested before Roys a conman, hes conned his way into the Liverpool job.

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Re: The Roy Hodgson Thread
« Reply #429 on: October 31, 2010, 01:39:44 PM »
like you Juan, I'd love to see Rafa back too (along with Packo).

as for big sam and co - they are all little englanders. 

I wish the media was strong enough to challenge them on their views.   I find their views often bordering on being racist.

Then again, look at much of the media - it too, is full of little englanders.





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« Reply #430 on: October 31, 2010, 07:46:55 PM »
We need 5 or 6 players as we're sort of players he says..

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6478627,00.html

"In January we should be really looking to solve one or two situations. We are desperately short of players. Front players.

is this the same man who axed players when he got here saying we were over staffed ???

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« Reply #431 on: October 31, 2010, 08:46:22 PM »
is this the same man who axed players when he got here saying we were over staffed ???

Jas
Overstaffed with poor quality players I expect. What's the point of paying wages to someone who will never see first team action?
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« Reply #432 on: October 31, 2010, 09:12:54 PM »
I could agree with that but it was stated somewhere else (can't find it now) that he was struggling to hold a good training session because of it. Also whats the point of letting players go in areas your week in ( a certain young left back springs to mind  ??? )

It just seems to me like bad planning to me.

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« Reply #433 on: October 31, 2010, 10:23:51 PM »
I could agree with that but it was stated somewhere else (can't find it now) that he was struggling to hold a good training session because of it. Also whats the point of letting players go in areas your week in ( a certain young left back springs to mind  ??? )

It just seems to me like bad planning to me.

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Yes, I saw the same story and like you can't remember where. Regarding Insua I'm not sure of the reasons he left. But given it was when H&G were in control I suspect there was more to it than meets the eye. I think he was told to trim the wages bill and he was hardly likely to refuse his new employer.
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« Reply #434 on: November 01, 2010, 12:06:41 PM »
Heres some support for Roy. I'm not sure Tim can say anything differently other than what he said, I dont think when asked about Roy hes going to publicly condemn him although I could be wrong. If what Flowers says is genuine then I dont see the evidence to prove Tims point, well I suppose there is none.

http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/46119/Flowers_hails_Hodgson_and_Liverpool_public.aspx

Former Blackburn Rovers goalkeeper Tim Flowers strongly believes that Roy Hodgson will turn Liverpool around given time in the Anfield hotseat.

The Reds endured a disastrous start to the season but have risen out of the bottom three with two successive wins, granting Hodgson a stay of execution from the Kop in the process.

Speaking as a guest on Sky Sports show Goals on Sunday, Flowers – who played under Hodgson at Blackburn – stated his firm belief that Hodgson’s thoroughness will get the Reds back on track.

He said: “It’s going to take time but there’s no better public than the Liverpool public.

“They understand football, they’re steeped in the tradition of football and they’ll understand that Roy’s going to need time to turn it round.

“Roy’s a tremendous coach – he will drill them and they’ll know exactly what they have to do.

“You can’t do that overnight but he will turn Liverpool around.”