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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by the dude abides on January 27, 2018, 10:19:33 PM »
clueless

I'd like to see Klopp gone in the summer - and a proper manager brought in.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on January 25, 2018, 11:39:04 PM »
We are in desperate need of creativity from midfield. Whether Coutinho played deeper, and therefore in midfield, or one of three 'up top', he was the link between the obvious midfield (Henderson, Wijnaldum, Can etc) and the attackers.

He wasn't a winger, he wasn't a true attacker in the way that Salah, Mane and Firmino (at least how Klopp has him playing) are, or was he a true midfielder. He was the blending point between midfield and 'the attack'.

With a midfield of mainly Henderson, Can and Wijnaldum, the likes of Mane, Salah, Firmino etc (Sturridge and Ings too) are going to be devoid of service, especially against teams who don't 'come out and play' like City did.

Whether he adds a creative type midfielder this month, or he chooses to wait until the Summer and revamp midfield with at least one more quality 'all round' midfielder to go alongside Keita, something needs to happen.

It could be a long second half to the season if we have any more performances like the Swansea one, and we can't get Lallana back and hopefully firing on all cylinders, soon enough.

It's a shame about Goretzka, but we need to find an addition soon, whether he's signed in this or the next window.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by the dude abides on January 24, 2018, 01:35:06 AM »
yes very depressing

must be a rare record - beat the runaway leaders one week, and the next game lose to the bottom club.

klopp has no tactics......play far too compressed in opposition;s half.  Thus there's no room for speed merchants, like Mane and Salah, to make hay.

and why do we feed the ball endlessly out wide to Robertson, in the winger role, when he just passes it back again to our defenders/midfield.

we need a proper two pronged attack, and space for them to move in....in games like this.

agree re Wildnajum.....Can no better.  Keita will be an upgrade.


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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on January 23, 2018, 09:46:32 PM »
Liverpool Football Club - we beat the best and lose to the worst.

What a terrible performance. We've now lost ground again on those above us.

Why is Wijnaldum on the pitch for away games - it leaves us playing with 10 men each time.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by the dude abides on January 16, 2018, 09:56:31 PM »
I'd much prefer to see Danny Ward given a shot, as he's the only unknown performer. He may turn out to be our version of Burnley's Nick Pope.

I just don't see what Karius has to offer - there's no hint of a great keeper within nearly ready to burst out and flourish.

yes, of the two, Mignolet (for me) is much better than Klarius.

maybe Mignolet's mistake versus Arsenal, was the final straw for Klopp.   But why bite off your hand to spite your face.  Klarius is bog standard.  He is not good enough, at present, for a top club.....and may never be.   He just seems too young, too lightweight.....he never gets you out of a fix.  The City goal was so predictable.  A top keeper saves the majority of those types of shots.  But you just know that Klarius never will get you out of a hold.

I'd bring in a top keeper in the summer, and sell both Mignolet and Klarius.  And make Danny Ward my number two (if he accepts that role).

 
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by the dude abides on January 16, 2018, 09:51:04 PM »
One thing that's becoming so clear is that Klopp only buys a piece of the jigsaw. He doesn't want any one piece to be the bulk of the picture, but 'a part'. The collective will always produce more than any one individual ever could.

yes, unlike Rodgers who brought in the second or third best player, for a specific position.......Klopp clearly will bide his time and wait til the player he wants is available.

I guess the difference is, Klopp's pulling power. 

Rodgers could have waited til the cow's came home, and still wouldn't have attracted top players to Liverpool.

When you bring in temporary make-do's, you then have the problem of moving them on, if/when your main target/upgrade becomes available.

Klopp is a patient man.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on January 16, 2018, 12:26:09 PM »
How does Karius get to be declared no1 after the City performance?

Mignolet hasn't been consistently poor enough, yes there was there Xhaka shot, and Karius obviously much better when he's played, for there to be a change in the goalkeeping situation.

If for some reason (other than the obvious one of which keeper was signed by which manager) Klopp was thinking of making Karius no1 (because of Mignolet's error against Arsenal), then surely the City game is a huge red flag.

I'd much prefer to see Danny Ward given a shot, as he's the only unknown performer. He may turn out to be our version of Burnley's Nick Pope.

I just don't see what Karius has to offer - there's no hint of a great keeper within nearly ready to burst out and flourish.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by Tes on January 15, 2018, 09:22:38 PM »
I watched as much of him as I could in the Euros, as it was just before then we were first linked. He blow hot and cold.
I haven't seen much of him since and his goals/assists haven't moved on hugely. Then again, stats are no recommenders of real talent, or what a player could be capable of in the right environment.

One thing that's becoming so clear is that Klopp only buys a piece of the jigsaw. He doesn't want any one piece to be the bulk of the picture, but 'a part'. The collective will always produce more than any one individual ever could.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on January 15, 2018, 09:14:44 PM »
Bi-polar FC.

It's the new Liverpool 4 - 3 Newcastle.

Gomez has a real problem with direction and flight of ball, and at what point in it's flight (journey) is the point at which it needs to be attacked, and make sure you are there to do it.

The Sane goal was Karius re-living Dudek's nightmare's against Forlan.

All our finishes were sublime. City's 2nd and 3rd was how it must be like as a human to play against a bar-football machine team.

Ox is finding his feet more with each game and is starting to jog memories of what he was thought to be when he first left Southampton.

Our title tilt this year has to be beating the Mancs and Chelsea to 2nd, and the Mancs in the FA Cup final.
I was going to say beating the Bitters in the final or claiming the Arsenal Cup off them, but then neither of those things are possible.  ;D

It's funny how sometimes a team loses who is regarded as their 'best' player, but then it allows others to 'grow' and fill the 'hole'. Hopefully that's going to happen for us, especially where Ox and Bobby are concerned.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by the dude abides on January 15, 2018, 05:36:43 PM »
Liverpool 4 City 3

fantastic result.

though we got to see the best of Liverpool and the worst of Liverpool.

if Klopp knew a damn thing about defending/balance, he would be the best in the business.

even at 4-3, in injury time, rather than send Milner and his pals into the corner to hold the ball up, he is encouraging them forward.   :o :o :o :o :o

was surprised to see Klarius start.....and as I predicted to friends here, he would make a mess-up.  Mind you, depsite SKy not mentioning it, Gomez also was woeful......again he loses diagonal balls mid-flight.  A bit of a problem if you're a defender.

But great result....9 minutes of fantastic closing down/pressing/counter attacking.  Wolrd class goals from Firminho and Salah.....and Mane's and the Ox's were darn good too!

Phil who?    Ringo has left.  The fab three march on to greater glories!


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