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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: November 10, 2017, 06:24:58 PM »
off topic

awful penalty decision for the Swizz.   Beyond awful.

Come on N Ireland in the return leg!!

And come on the Republic v Denmark!

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: November 05, 2017, 03:37:55 PM »
the defence still looked a concern. Ayew's early chance where everyone was ball watching again and Moreno had tucked in too far leaving Ayew clear.

For the goal, Gomez should have attacked and cleared the ball

there were a couple of 'good' chances for The Hammers in the second half that really shouldn't have happened.

Our players appear to focus solely on the ball, rather than being aware of opposition players around them

Ultimately, players, not zones or spaces, score goals.

totally agree.

I saw the highlights last night - and was shouting at the screen, that we were "ball-watching" again for their goal.....and on other hammer chances.

Sometimes I really think that Klopp doesn't even have the basic skills, re coaching.  Pub teams try and eradicate ball-watching - so why should a big professional club be regularly caught doing it.

Ok, we hammered the bubble-blowers.....but this could have been something like a 4-6 scoreline. 

There is no future to such an ill-balanced setup.  Progress will never be made on the back of such a flawed strategy.

Any manager worth his salt, that goes ahead, then will sit back, which forces the opposition to commit players forward......THUS leaving gaps in behind for us to exploit and score more goals.

But Klopp doesn't do this.  He has one mode of operation - attack, attack, attack. 

But at least yesterday, he had Liverpool pinging the ball around at speed.  The slow possession based build-ups never work in his system.  But when we decide to stop masturbating over our possession and endless meaningless passes, and actually move the ball faster, we score goals.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: November 05, 2017, 03:27:15 PM »
I think I'm going to file a missing player's report on Robertson at my nearest copshop.  ;D

 ;D

yes, the lad seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth and into a black hole.

I'd be pretty depressed if I couldn't compete with Moreno for the jersey.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: November 04, 2017, 07:28:14 AM »
I always took the penalties for the team I played for.

There is no divine right to score. 

Milner didn't miss his penalty. The keeper made a good save.

Milner would be my penalty taker.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 31, 2017, 04:48:13 PM »
I know Karius kept a clean sheet last time out against Maribor, but with the defence looking slightly less shaky against Huddersfield, then surely a bit of stability and continuity would be helpful bu keeping Mignolet in goal on Wednesday.
A second clean sheet and few goals to strengthen our goal difference could be another small step in the right direction, and at the moment even small steps are seeming to take on greater significance.

stability, especially in defence, has always been key to a successful side.

klopp's chopping and changing is stupid.

he must have made some pre season agreement with our second and third keepers, to give Ward our league cup games (err, game)......and Karius our Champions League games.  Maybe after group stages, klopp opts to use our number one keeper.

As you say, continuity would be nice against Maribor.

I saw Klopp having a few jabs at the Anfield faithful.....seemingly annoyed at the atmosphere in the first half v Huddersfield.  The supporters aren't stupid.  The jury, at best, is out re Klopp being fit to put together a balanced side.   

 

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 29, 2017, 09:30:52 PM »
A well worked ruse. Lovren gets selected to play, looking like the manager is backing his player, only to be taken out of the firing line at the last minute with a muscle injury warming up. Now he can safely put a few games distance between the Spurs game as he 'recovers from injury' ;D

 ;D

the politics of it all.

like I mean, who gets injured in the warm up.

Ultimately an easy victory.

But Milner is our penalty taker.  He needs to be taking them (or Hendo).

We can't be letting anyone grab the ball.

Overall good performance.  And we will get better as senior players return from injury.

But time will tell as to whether Klopp is any use at finding a balanced side.  I suspect not.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 25, 2017, 12:04:48 PM »
you have to wonder what they (whichever pair are put in the firing line of playing centre half) are thinking. Sometimes they look shell shocked, or just plain disbelieving at what they're expected to deal with.

Lovren hesitated, as if unsure what to do, and let the ball go over his head for the first. So when that then proved to be the wrong action, he just did the opposite and rashly attacked the ball, missing it the next time.

They don't look sure of what to do.

Even a superb reader of the game like Hyypia, or a pure defender like Carragher or Terry would flounder in this team.

totally agree.

even two world class centrebacks, like Maldini and Nesta, would have their work cut out in this nutty setup.

your back four (or three) is supposed to be typically lined up across the 18 yard line, NOT the half way line.

it is madness re defending. 

It is also madness for our offence too.  We have such pacy forwards, so why the hell are we compacting the space at the front - allowing them nowhere to speed into?

Klopp's possession mantra is meaningless. 

Mid table clubs had him worked out early on. And worryingly, the evidence so far this season, suggests that top clubs in England now have him sussed out too.

i.e. let Liverpool have as much of the ball as they want.....and just hit them on the counter via throwing or dinking the ball over their defence.

Rope-a-dope.



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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 24, 2017, 07:26:12 PM »


Incoming Liverpool midfielder Naby Keita is one of the best players Ralf Rangnick has ever worked with....with the RB Leipzig sporting director admitting he always knew the Reds would win the battle to sign him.

“He's one of the best I've worked with in 20 years of professional football,” Rangnick, who has worked with the likes of Liverpool pair Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino and Bayern Munich’s David Alaba, told Kicker.

“I’d also prefer, 10 times, that we'd kept him for another five years - but we are just not able to pay salaries in excess of €10m.”

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 24, 2017, 12:49:32 PM »
Whilst all three mentioned made errors, I have a certain amount of sympathy with whoever plays at centre back or in goal. They're left exposed constantly.

they are being asked to do more than is sensible, and are in a position where they know everything they attempt is so crucial.

absolutely. 

with Klopp wanting our full-backs to be constantly supporting the attack it means crazy pressure on our two centrebacks, when the other side breaks.

being a Liverpool centreback, or keeper, must be one of the most thankless jobs in sport.

in my lifetime, I have never seen anything at Liverpool anywhere close to this defensive shambles.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 23, 2017, 09:05:57 PM »
What us and our rivals have spent on defence in last two years:

City - £180m
Chelsea: £109m
Spurs - £71m
Utd - £61m
Liverpool - £12m (£0m on players that start)

When will you realise the problem is not Klopp but FSG.

when we genuinely had bad owners, namely the Toxic Yanks, Rafa had peanuts to spend in his two final seasons.

2008/09 net spend: £2 and a half million

2009/10 net spend: £10,000  (that's right - ten thousand pounds net)

Jurgen, on the other hand, has had major money to spend. 

But he seems to only want to recruit offensive players.  And the one lad he brought in for the defence, for 10 million quid, looks as if he has been already judged as not good enough (that's what it feel like anyway, from the outside, looking in).


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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 23, 2017, 08:44:55 PM »


Ex-Liverpool man Peter Gulacsi voted best keeper in Germany

FORMER Liverpool man Peter Gulacsi has been named best goalkeeper in the Bundesliga so far this season to heap yet more misery on Reds fans.

full story and video of saves at:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/654543/Liverpool-news-Peter-Gulacsi-best-goalkeeper-Bundesliga-saves-video

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 23, 2017, 05:10:04 PM »
I have been suspecting for many weeks, that Klopp is in danger of losing the faith of senior players in the dressing room.  Maybe it has already happened.  Senior players won't forever allow themselves to be scapegoats for idiotic tactics.

I saw Milner last season - Hendo this season.  Lovren, Matip, Countinho, Ferminho, Mignolet.

The King has no clothes. 

The wares of the snake-oil salesman have been caught on.   

If a manager comes into your club, and dictates that the key to being a top club, is building from the front, and possession play, then it's time to recruit a new manager. 

Despite coming to a club with a record of a poor defence, in his two years at the helm, Klopp has only recruited one defender that gets a regular game. 

Last season, we at least had a great record against the top clubs.  This season even that has changed.  It seems the top clubs now have our boss sussed out.  Just let Liverpool have endless possession, and hit them hard on the counter.  Indeed, just dink the ball over our defence, and more often than not, you will score.

Klopp's time is up.  Though he may go far in the champions league, I suggest that last season's 4th place finish, will be the highest  he ever achieves with Liverpool.  Van Dijk is not the answer, a top manager is the requirement.   I'd be privately speaking with Benitez and Ancelotti, with a view to taking over in May.

Indeed, I would love to have had the Spurs boss in the Liverpool dugout.  I suspect he will end up at Old Trafford.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 23, 2017, 03:25:24 PM »
Things are bad.  Even Djimi Traore is having a go.    ??? ::) :P

Midway through the first half, Traore tweeted:

“No way you can win trophy with that defense, come on LFC wake up”.


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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 23, 2017, 01:40:41 PM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bernardo-silva-find-out-monday-11390023

Burnley boss Sean Dyche was sceptical of the penalty decision and said of Silva: “For him to get that high off the floor with his arms above his head is almost a skill in itself. I was quite impressed with how far he travelled."

“If I kicked my kid in the garden, I don’t think he’d fall like that, so it was a moment where there has to be a bit of honour within the game where you go ‘OK, he has caught me, but it’s not enough’.”

City have enough quality without diving all over the show.  That breakthrough penalty in the first half made their life easier.

I don't have much time for the regular antics of their other lad, Leroy Sane.   Officials need to clamp down on such carry on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhywhfGWaUA

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: October 23, 2017, 01:29:18 PM »
Spurs are capable, at the present time, of giving anyone a hiding.

So we have to take our hats off to them for their performance.

And Lovren does not deserve to be hung out to dry....nor Matip, nor Mignolet.   

In the modern era, with the quick communication possibilities of social media, there seems to be witch-hunt inflation.  As someone said this weekend, thank goodness there wasn't social media around 100 plus years ago in Alabama, and the southern states (otherwise there would have been a lot more lynchings).  I can empathise with the lad - and him taking down his instagram stuff.  It must be so frustrating - unable to defend yourself in the media, against all the abuse.  All he is left with, having no bullets to fire, is defensive mode, circling the wagons.

For all we know, Lovren was told to get in front of Kane....to get to the ball before it arrived at his feet. 

The bloke who has been the ringmaster of this ongoing circus, is Mr Klopp.

Every pundit seems to blame it all on personnel - and that us missing out on Van Dykt in the summer, has apparently led to this madness.  Rubbish.  The issue is structural.  The issue is one of team balance. 

Any pundit worth his salt would be asking where is the protection for our defence.  Where is the sweeper.  Mr Klopp needs to answer those questions.



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