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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: January 16, 2018, 12:26:09 PM »
How does Karius get to be declared no1 after the City performance?

Mignolet hasn't been consistently poor enough, yes there was there Xhaka shot, and Karius obviously much better when he's played, for there to be a change in the goalkeeping situation.

If for some reason (other than the obvious one of which keeper was signed by which manager) Klopp was thinking of making Karius no1 (because of Mignolet's error against Arsenal), then surely the City game is a huge red flag.

I'd much prefer to see Danny Ward given a shot, as he's the only unknown performer. He may turn out to be our version of Burnley's Nick Pope.

I just don't see what Karius has to offer - there's no hint of a great keeper within nearly ready to burst out and flourish.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 15, 2018, 09:22:38 PM »
I watched as much of him as I could in the Euros, as it was just before then we were first linked. He blow hot and cold.
I haven't seen much of him since and his goals/assists haven't moved on hugely. Then again, stats are no recommenders of real talent, or what a player could be capable of in the right environment.

One thing that's becoming so clear is that Klopp only buys a piece of the jigsaw. He doesn't want any one piece to be the bulk of the picture, but 'a part'. The collective will always produce more than any one individual ever could.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: January 15, 2018, 09:14:44 PM »
Bi-polar FC.

It's the new Liverpool 4 - 3 Newcastle.

Gomez has a real problem with direction and flight of ball, and at what point in it's flight (journey) is the point at which it needs to be attacked, and make sure you are there to do it.

The Sane goal was Karius re-living Dudek's nightmare's against Forlan.

All our finishes were sublime. City's 2nd and 3rd was how it must be like as a human to play against a bar-football machine team.

Ox is finding his feet more with each game and is starting to jog memories of what he was thought to be when he first left Southampton.

Our title tilt this year has to be beating the Mancs and Chelsea to 2nd, and the Mancs in the FA Cup final.
I was going to say beating the Bitters in the final or claiming the Arsenal Cup off them, but then neither of those things are possible.  ;D

It's funny how sometimes a team loses who is regarded as their 'best' player, but then it allows others to 'grow' and fill the 'hole'. Hopefully that's going to happen for us, especially where Ox and Bobby are concerned.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:10:54 PM »
If there's once transfer that will both highlight the madness of the market and the total dearth of centre halves, it will be if Jonny Evans leaves WBA for either Chelsea or Arsenal, for anything over £10M, probably closer to £30M.

Where was the clamour for his signature when Van Gaal sold him for £6M 2 Summers ago?

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 08, 2018, 07:02:00 AM »
It will work in our favour if Monaco won't sell Lemar in January.

He's not reached the heights he did last season. I realise he lost a fair few team mates in the Summer, but Monaco are still 2nd in the French league, so they've hardly crumbled.

Losing the likes of M'Bappe should see someone like Lemar step forward and take centre stage in his absence. Truly class players do that.

By waiting until the Summer, we could save ourselves wasting an awful lot of money.

Draxler is the one we should be aiming for. He's a more rounded player, able to play wide or centrally equally as affectively, and he's at the point in his career to take the big step up like Coutinho did over the last 18 months.
His chances of doing that at PSG are limited.

We could also take Kevin Trapp off PSG on loan until the end of the season, as he's a definite step up from Mignolet and Karius, or maybe take advantage of Stoke being managerless and put a bid in for Jack Butland, and see if something shakes loose there.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 08, 2018, 06:47:34 AM »

Emre Can to stay at Liverpool in January but 'very close' to signing Juventus deal


Juventus boss Massimiliano Allegri admitted last week that he's a big fan of the German midfielder.

"We're all aware of Emre Can's qualities," he said.

Care to enlighten us as to what they are because he keeps them well hidden when he's wearing a red shirt.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: January 07, 2018, 04:18:23 PM »
It was real sick bag, cringeworthy stuff at times, and Shearer's viewpoint changes according to the team or personnel involved. His ex-England team mates always get an easy ride, where as those foreigners etc.................

I'm surprised Holgate's shove on Firmino wasn't brushed over completely, after all "it's a contact sport".

Lovren and Henderson can't put their hands on a player in the box, otherwise it's a penalty, and they 'should know that'. Holgate on the other hand, can, as long as it's not overly forceful because "it's a contact sport".

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 07, 2018, 04:08:07 PM »
poor form losing him in January.  I think that says something about the player and his loyalties.

Big money move.   I hope we use it wisely - and not be a dummy like when we sold Torres for big money, and burnt our dosh on Andy Bloddy Carroll.

I imagine letting Phil go in this window, must mean we have someone immediately lined up to come in.   Though knowing Klopp... if needs be, he will wait for his target to become available, rather than rushing a sale for a lesser player.

IMHO Barca have bought the wrong red.  Salah is a much better player IMHO.  I'd be worried that Madrid come in for him this summer or next.

Just imagine how good Salah will be at Anfield once he gets settled in!!!   Traditionally, a player peaks after two or three years in the premiership.

I'd like us to bring in Jasper Schmeical from Leicester.  Very good keeper, knows the league, strong reassuring presence at the back, good distribution, great stopper.   I also like his colleague Mahrez.

I'd be more surprised to see us 'replace' Coutinho in this window. The whole approach from us seemed different to the Summer, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was an agreement in the Summer that if Barca offer a better deal in January, which is to our liking, then we'd let him go.

I think Klopp understands that you don't necessarily replace 'certain' players, you replace or improve on 'their effect'. A tighter defence lessens the need for Coutinho's goals and assists to be replaced in order to win matches etc.

Only when Coutinho didn't play in the front three does our midfield have real 'creativity', especially if Lallana is missing. Even then, it's been more a front four rather than Coutinho really playing in midfield.

Improving the pace, dynamism and 'real' creativity (Lallana aside) of our midfield (Can, Hendo, Wijnaldum) would help hugely.
Mane now gets the chance to play most games and rediscover his top form, and as Lallana's fitness and match touch comes back, we have two things to help fill the gap in a slightly different way.
Oxlade-Chamberlain is gradually have more impact, and as that develops, it will bring something additional.

Coutinho's a pretty unique player, hence Barca wanting him above others. We can adapt and develop, rather than try to replicate. After all, how many trophies did the 'collective' win with Coutinho in it?

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: January 07, 2018, 02:04:54 PM »
Liverpool star Roberto Firmino should receive a 10-game ban if guilty - Stan Collymore


So Collymore doesn't find it remotely odd that at the exact moment Holgate reacts to what was said, the ref was right there in between the two players, had been for several seconds before Holgate's reaction, and yet the ref didn't respond in any way to what Firmino said.

Surely if Firmino uses the 'n' word in the ref's hearing, and unless the ref was stone deaf, Firmino's verbal tirade was said in the ref's hearing, then the ref would have taken immediate action.

What's the betting, that Firmino being as angry as he was, and made angry in an instant, let's rip at Holgate in his native tongue of Portuguese rather than go through the mental process of trying to translate his angry outburst into English first.

And what about the violent conduct that sent Firmino needlessly over the hoardings? Will that be punished?

I hope Holgate hasn't said something that's false to try and deflect what he had done wrong in the first place.

There were also plenty of players around the two of them at the point of Holgate's reaction, yet there is no reaction from any other player, especially Everton ones.

A false accusation should be punished with the same ban as a genuine racial incident, only it should be Holgate getting the ban. A false accusation sets back the attempt to remove genuine racist incidents.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 07, 2018, 01:12:47 PM »
I hope we don't make the mistake of trying to replace Coutinho with a supposed 'like for like' player.

Removing the need for so many goals to be scored, would be a help.

Getting both Salah and Mane to get their heads up, and square the ball at times to a better placed team mate, would see goals and assists increase.

The last three games, where we've only conceded the single goal, shows the real way forward. We've scored plenty of twos and threes with Coutinho in the team, yet failed to win a lot of those games.

We need to bring in more creativity from midfield - Can, Hendo, Wijnaldum, the real midfield offers insufficient creativity. We need Lallana back up to speed asap.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 07, 2018, 12:29:55 PM »
So he's gone. Huge positive nett spend window for FSG. Everyone's happy. Everyone that counts in modern football, that is.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: January 06, 2018, 12:45:51 AM »
Another ground out win with us not at our best.

Can at fault, yet again, for not tracking Sigurdsson. I wonder if he'll make it to Juve or will he stop at the edge of the Italian coast?

That peno evens up the Henderson one.

I thought Robertson dealt ok with Bolasie, and is growing into the team.

Van Dijk. Next season's new captain.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 05, 2018, 04:44:50 PM »
I'd much rather see us sign Draxler than Lemar, at this point in their careers.

Mahrez might make more sense too than Lemar, being Premier League proven and starting to look like getting back to his best, where as Lemar's form has dropped right off. I'm not saying he's a one season wonder, and the loss of a number of class players from Monaco can't have helped him, but his not stepped up as you'd expect this season.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 05, 2018, 04:31:08 PM »
We need to make a stand against the ridiculous add-on disease that has now infected transfers.

I could understand 10% of a fee, especially if it was inflated to begin with, being payable only under certain conditions.

The likes of Barcelona are now taking the p!ss where add-ons are concerned.

If they want to try and take our best player with a deal that includes add-ons then the 'base' fee needs to be at least £125M, with add-ons being such as a further £5M each time Barca wins the league, £10M if they win the CL, £5M once Coutinho has earned 10 more Brazilian caps, £5M for every 20 goals he scores for Barca, and a percentage of any fee Barca sell him for - not a percentage of anything over what they bought him from us for, but, for example, 15% of any future fee, so if he was sold for £25M, we would receive £3.75M. 

After all, they got the full fee for Neymar, and don't have to wait for add-ons or installments.

We also need to demand at least 2/3 of the 'base' fee up front, now, with the other 1/3 payable in 12 months time, with add-ons payable within 90 days.

They need to be made to put their cheque book where their mouth is.

I also think it's about time we started putting huge buyout clauses in certain players' contracts. For example Mane and Salah would be good examples. You'd probably not need to do the same for the likes of Klavan or Wijnaldum etc.
If we're forced to agree a sell-on clause with a team we buy from, then it would be a good idea also to put a buy-out fee, or at least a fee 'floor', so we could protect ourselves from losing out on too much in a future sale. Of course we can decide to sell for less than the 'floor' if it was in our interest to 'offload' the player.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« on: January 05, 2018, 12:54:56 PM »

the big money is in england.   There is only sun, and a slower pace of league in Italy (which may suit his lazy slow to football).

I would not be surprised if he ends up signing a new contract with Liverpool.  It just feels like he is playing the field.

Can would be far better suited to Italian football. Everything about him, and everything he seems to do, just appears to be in slow motion.
Slow over the ground with or without the ball, quits tracking back once he reaches the edge of the area, slow decision making, and multiple touches.

He's a 'betwixt and between' sort of midfielder. Not one particular type or another, and not a particularly accomplished 'all round' midfielder either. We have too many of them as it is.   

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