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Title: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 05, 2016, 01:05:58 AM
Allegedly Sturridge wants to leave in the Summer because of Klopp's supposed criticism.

I don't think Klopp's been critical but if Sturridge takes it that way then he's very thin skinned.

It's probably best if he does leave as no matter how good he may be when fit, surely it's better to have a player who may only have a 1 in 3 record, fit all the time, rather than a player with a 1 in 1.5 record who's only fit 20% of the time.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: barticus on February 05, 2016, 11:41:31 AM
Maybe we can sell him to China?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 05, 2016, 12:52:25 PM
 :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 05, 2016, 01:43:35 PM
Maybe we can sell him to China?

And watch how he links up with Teixeira. Dreams and allegiances for sale, sold to the highest bidder.

Maybe we dodged a bullet with Teixeira. Apparently the Chinese team were the only ones to make a 'serious' bid, which was not what he was saying about our bid(s) last week.

The search for the 'next Jamie Vardy' continues.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 05, 2016, 02:03:24 PM
"Let's put it like this: everyone always knew that I wanted to stay in Europe and move to the English Premier League club," Teixeira said.

"But, unfortunately, all the proposals that came from them, were somewhat windy and did not contain anything concrete."

"Now I have received a serious offer from China. Of course, I'm moving there."

"At this stage, Brazil national team will move away from me a little further. But let's see what happens in the future!"

As Tes says, looks like we dodged a bullet.

Heck, maybe we were only ever used to push his price and wages up.

Looks like the guy loves the money.  Why else would he go to that mecca of football, China.

Good riddance.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 05, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
"Let's put it like this: everyone always knew that I wanted to stay in Europe and move to the English Premier League club," Teixeira said.

"But, unfortunately, all the proposals that came from them, were somewhat windy and did not contain anything concrete."

"Now I have received a serious offer from China. Of course, I'm moving there."

"At this stage, Brazil national team will move away from me a little further. But let's see what happens in the future!"

As Tes says, looks like we dodged a bullet.

Heck, maybe we were only ever used to push his price and wages up.

Looks like the guy loves the money.  Why else would he go to that mecca of football, China.

Good riddance.

Meanwhile, last week he was saying "The team received one official offer from Liverpool. It was rejected. I don't know why. It was a great offer. It is frustrating. But the manager and club president decided against it."

Not even a whiff of wind, despite Ian Ayre doing the negotiating.

In his own words, caught on video: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/641417/Alex-Teixiera-Why-I-did-not-join-Liverpool (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/641417/Alex-Teixiera-Why-I-did-not-join-Liverpool)

All he had to do was say no, especially as his club had been insistent that he wouldn't be leaving until the Summer at least.

It's also rather odd how when the Chinese offered the magical £38M, the asking price didn't shoot up to £53M, like it supposedly had for us.

Looks like his dream to play in the PL and force his way into the Brazilian manager's thoughts by playing in a high profile league have all been bought off by the Chinese.

" A team full of Flanagans".
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 05, 2016, 03:58:03 PM
Meanwhile, last week he was saying "The team received one official offer from Liverpool. It was rejected. I don't know why. It was a great offer. It is frustrating. But the manager and club president decided against it."

Not even a whiff of wind, despite Ian Ayre doing the negotiating.

In his own words, caught on video: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/641417/Alex-Teixiera-Why-I-did-not-join-Liverpool (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/641417/Alex-Teixiera-Why-I-did-not-join-Liverpool)

All he had to do was say no, especially as his club had been insistent that he wouldn't be leaving until the Summer at least.

It's also rather odd how when the Chinese offered the magical £38M, the asking price didn't shoot up to £53M, like it supposedly had for us.

Looks like his dream to play in the PL and force his way into the Brazilian manager's thoughts by playing in a high profile league have all been bought off by the Chinese.

yes, and a couple of days ago, his club denied any contact with a Chinese club.

the whole thing doesn't sit right.

I think we dodged a bullet.

Maybe no coincidence that moneybags Chelsea pulled out long before us.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 05, 2016, 04:06:53 PM
yes, and a couple of days ago, his club denied any contact with a Chinese club.

the whole thing doesn't sit right.

I think we dodged a bullet.

Maybe no coincidence that moneybags Chelsea pulled out long before us.

There's no doubt the Chinese will have offered him more than we did, but life's about trade-offs sometimes and it's not like he won't be set up for life with any 3 or 4 year contract we'd have offered.

We need players that 'want to play for us' above all other considerations. Players who appreciate the history of the club, don't wilt under so-called expectations because of it and want to be a part of recreating that history.
Klopp as the manager appears to fit that particular bill, now we need some players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 05, 2016, 05:45:52 PM
From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3433303/Alex-Teixeira-Liverpool-s-proposal-did-not-contain-concrete-offer-came-China-m-there.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3433303/Alex-Teixeira-Liverpool-s-proposal-did-not-contain-concrete-offer-came-China-m-there.html)

Alex Teixeira has insisted that Liverpool never made him a concrete offer to move to the Barclays Premier League after sealing his £40million transfer to the Chinese Super League.

Seeing as we hadn't agreed a fee with his club, we therefore wouldn't have had their permission to discuss personal terms with him, something we require. To have discussed terms and made a 'concrete offer' would have constituted an illegal approach. The transfer never reached the stage of legitimately discussing personal terms, so it would have been extremely hard to put a 'concrete offer' to him.

So I guess his complaint boils down to the fact that we didn't make an illegal approach to him.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 06, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
A top goalkeeper and a centre half has to be priority this Summer.

I know the Benteke/Sturridge issues suggest a forward should be added to that list, but I'd still like to see Ings and Origi given time with Klopp, as unlike with our defence, we don't yet know what we reallyhave with those two in addition to Firmino.

Lewandowski wasn't an instant hit and Vardy (this season at least) has shown that 'names' aren't always the best or ultimate solution.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 07, 2016, 09:54:22 PM
Despite Klopp stating there was nothing in it, the 'Sturridge to leave' bandwagon rolls on at an ever increasing pace. He supposedly wants to 'go back to London because of the criticism' - what they don't have the internet in London?
We're supposedly asking around £30M. Newcastle (despite being barely on the outskirts of London) are being heavily linked. £200M to Newcastle, the cheeky Andy Carroll selling rascals, them.

No doubt at the start of next week it'll be we're offering him a new 5 year deal for £200K a week, with 'non-appearance' bonuses in it.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 08, 2016, 09:52:59 PM
Yipperty Yee-haw: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/sports/article/2000191024/mario-balotelli-set-for-a-move-back-to-liverpool (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/sports/article/2000191024/mario-balotelli-set-for-a-move-back-to-liverpool)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 13, 2016, 11:41:14 PM
From:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3446034/Fit-Daniel-Sturridge-no-longer-casts-shadow-Jurgen-Klopp-doesn-t-want-sign-Champions-League-glory-hunters.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3446034/Fit-Daniel-Sturridge-no-longer-casts-shadow-Jurgen-Klopp-doesn-t-want-sign-Champions-League-glory-hunters.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)

Liverpool face a pivotal month which will go along way to assessing their chances of getting into the Champions League next season, either through their Premier League position or the Europa League.

At the moment, neither looks likely but Klopp insists it won't change his recruitment plans in the summer because he doesn't want players at the club who are only attracted by playing in Europe's biggest competition.

'If a player only wants to come to us to play in the Champions League, short-term ideas are always silly. I don't like this. I don't like it when players say 'Ah, but you're not in the Champions League. We want to get you because we want to play in the Champions League.

'If you don't want to help us, and want to jump on a running train, then go somewhere else. That's it.

'You need the right mentality and quality. That's how it is. If there's a player who won't join Liverpool because we don't play in the Champions League or will only join because we're in the Champions League, that's not for us.'
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 14, 2016, 09:51:26 AM
Klopp insists it won't change his recruitment plans in the summer because he doesn't want players at the club who are only attracted by playing in Europe's biggest competition.

'If a player only wants to come to us to play in the Champions League, short-term ideas are always silly. I don't like this. I don't like it when players say 'Ah, but you're not in the Champions League. We want to get you because we want to play in the Champions League.

'If you don't want to help us, and want to jump on a running train, then go somewhere else. That's it.

'You need the right mentality and quality. That's how it is. If there's a player who won't join Liverpool because we don't play in the Champions League or will only join because we're in the Champions League, that's not for us.'


I just keep loving Klopp, more and more.

This guy has it spot on.

He has more brains in his big toe, than Rodgers has in his entire brain.

If Johnny Come Lately doesn't fancy coming to Liverpool, and isntead wants the big lights of Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester or London, then excellent - we dodged a bulle.t. 

I don't want airheads, egos, arrogance, and sh,teheads around the club.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 14, 2016, 04:43:23 PM
I just keep loving Klopp, more and more.

This guy has it spot on.

He has more brains in his big toe, than Rodgers has in his entire brain.

If Johnny Come Lately doesn't fancy coming to Liverpool, and isntead wants the big lights of Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester or London, then excellent - we dodged a bulle.t. 

I don't want airheads, egos, arrogance, and sh,teheads around the club.

The players he had at Dortmund all appeared to love being at the club. There were very few that once they'd become 'names', then agitated to leave. He bought quite a few players into the club, and apart from probably Mkhitaryan, none of them were 'names' to any degree at all.
It's interesting when you look at their squad, pretty much all those who have become household names, are still their. That says a lot about the club itself.

I think it's more befitting of who we are as a club, that we get back to making our own 'stars', rather than signing other people's. By altering the mindset of the club and the transfer policy, I think we'll also massively lessen the risk of what we've done too much of recently, and that's by 'flavours of the month', players who are having a good season (with no previous record of such) or who have had one good season.

Since our last title our best and most influential players have been those that weren't huge names - they were either unknowns like Hyypia, or those who were just starting to possibly suggest great things like Alonso or Suarez.

When you look at the likes of City, despite their collection of names throughout the squad, not just the first eleven, they have under performed for what you would think would be the 'collective level' when you looked at all those individuals.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 14, 2016, 08:02:13 PM
I think it's more befitting of who we are as a club, that we get back to making our own 'stars', rather than signing other people's. By altering the mindset of the club and the transfer policy, I think we'll also massively lessen the risk of what we've done too much of recently, and that's by 'flavours of the month', players who are having a good season (with no previous record of such) or who have had one good season.

Since our last title our best and most influential players have been those that weren't huge names - they were either unknowns like Hyypia, or those who were just starting to possibly suggest great things like Alonso or Suarez.

When you look at the likes of City, despite their collection of names throughout the squad, not just the first eleven, they have under performed for what you would think would be the 'collective level' when you looked at all those individuals.

agreed.

if you were a City shareholder, you;d be very disappointed at the return on your transfer investments.

Suppose same with us and Everton.  Everton exist on peanuts - and yet we are only marginally better than them, results-wise in recent years.

If I ran the club, I would have the best scouting system that I could muster.  If we are to build, we need the proper people in the background - finding and bringing people through.

As you mention, we need new lads of the ilk, of Sami Hyppia.   To find gems, we need good scouts.  Any body can spend big money, on (as you say) flavours of the month.  But the gems are out there, to be brought in for much less money.  But we do not have the scouting system to find them.  imho    I hope Klopp, and his German colleagues, can help change that.

When we do spend big money, it should be the exception.  And that player should offer genuine quality, i.e. walk straight into the team - and be a true red-type player - good character, top of his game, good team player, right attitude, etc.

The big money that we have spent in recent years, has been thrown away. 

I think FSG would be wise to take note of the fan unrest - I suspect that the unrest is not merely linked to ticket prices.   Fans want the club run properly. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 14, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
I think FSG would be wise to take note of the fan unrest - I suspect that the unrest is not merely linked to ticket prices.   Fans want the club run properly.

That's exactly what I thought when it was reported a quarter of the crowd left in the 77th minute. It can't just be about ticket prices, though it's a huge issue. This was an opportunity to make a point, and people took it brilliantly.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 14, 2016, 10:06:41 PM

if you were a City shareholder, you;d be very disappointed at the return on your transfer investments.


City's collection of great players lost 2-1 at home to the team that Pochettino is putting together at Spurs.

City should have won the league for the last 3 seasons in a row. It will be interesting to see if Guardiola can cut on a wet and windy November night in Stoke.  ;D
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 15, 2016, 03:43:03 PM
Schalke announce that we have signed a pre-contract agreement with their defender/midfielder:

24-year-old Schalke centre half Joel Matip

Great news.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 15, 2016, 04:19:38 PM
Matip has revealed that he decided to join Liverpool as he wanted to experience something 'completely new'.

In a message to Schalke supporters, Matip has explained his reasons for rejecting a new contract with the club.

"I have always said that there is only one reason I would leave Schalke - to experience something completely new.  For that reason, I never considered a move to another Bundesliga club."

"Even though the decision wasn’t easy, I am certain that this is the right moment for me to take the next step in my career."

Seems like a good lad.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 15, 2016, 04:24:24 PM
Meanwhile, at the other end of the decent human being spectrum.

AC Milan coach Sinisa Mihajlovic has hinted that Liverpool striker Mario Balotelli may have played his last match on loan for the Rossoneri – after a plodding two minute substitute appearance for Milan yesterday.

Milan were leading Genoa 2-0 when Balotelli was introduced for Carlos Bacca, and in that time Genoa pulled a goal back.

But even though Milan won the match 2-1 coach Mihajlovic saw enough to rap: “We should’ve scored a third goal and not risked at the end. It is also my fault, as those who don’t sacrifice themselves for the team to the 94th minute will no longer set foot on the field."

“It wasn’t just Balotelli, there were another two or three as well as him, they know who I’m talking about.”

Balotelli has made just 11 appearances for Milan this term and scored just twice.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 15, 2016, 07:45:10 PM
That's exactly what I thought when it was reported a quarter of the crowd left in the 77th minute. It can't just be about ticket prices, though it's a huge issue. This was an opportunity to make a point, and people took it brilliantly.

agreed.

I think the natives are getting restless.   And it goes way beyond ticket prices.

FSG would be wise to up their game, and stop acting like know-it-all emperors from the laughably finest country in the world.

I would sack those who brought Ballotelli to the club.  I would sack those who had any part in the scouting and recruitment of Benteke.  The transfer committee has to be dismantled.   Maybe they can brush floors, mow grass, or clean boots. But they sure as heck can play no part in recruiting players.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 15, 2016, 11:37:33 PM
agreed.

I think the natives are getting restless.   And it goes way beyond ticket prices.

FSG would be wise to up their game, and stop acting like know-it-all emperors from the laughably finest country in the world.

I would sack those who brought Ballotelli to the club.  I would sack those who had any part in the scouting and recruitment of Benteke.  The transfer committee has to be dismantled.   Maybe they can brush floors, mow grass, or clean boots. But they sure as heck can play no part in recruiting players.

Hopefully Klopp doesn't just get the final say, but the total say in both how we recruit and also the individuals responsible and who is involved in any part of the process.

He worked closely with a sporting director at Dortmund and I have no problem if he chooses to place a similar sort of person in charge as long as he is following Klopp's instructions and requirements. Unlike in the past, because of the global nature of scouting, Klopp isn't going to be able to watch as many potential signings as managers possibly did in the past and there's a lot more to co-ordinate so he'll need assistance with that, but having a stats/numbers guy and someone from the US as part of the actual final football based decision making is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 15, 2016, 11:56:57 PM
Schalke announce that we have signed a pre-contract agreement with their defender/midfielder:

24-year-old Schalke centre half Joel Matip

Great news.

Klopp seems to have had his radar firmly set on Matip since he got here, and I'd imagine, well before that too. He didn't do a bad job when bringing in Subotic and Hummels, especially as he'd brought Subotic with him from Mainz.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 17, 2016, 06:00:11 PM
Klopp seems to have had his radar firmly set on Matip since he got here, and I'd imagine, well before that too. He didn't do a bad job when bringing in Subotic and Hummels, especially as he'd brought Subotic with him from Mainz.

agreed.

he looks like a really good acquisition.   He may take a year or two to get up to the physical challenge of the premiership....but everything else, he looks very good.

and tho a central defender, he scores goals!!!    Very good header of the ball.  Very good positional sense.

I was reading that that ratings-wise, he was rated 16th best Bundesliga player.  That is impressive.

Klopp says only 4 clubs in Germany could have afforded to buy him.

The fact the lad would not join another German club (18 years at Schawke) - and was a free at the end of his contract - and obviously knew Klopp....is an angle for Liverpool to exploit.  Klopp will know that market well, and can maybe exploit it....and for cheap money/free.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on February 19, 2016, 09:42:06 PM
agreed.

he looks like a really good acquisition.   He may take a year or two to get up to the physical challenge of the premiership....but everything else, he looks very good.

and tho a central defender, he scores goals!!!    Very good header of the ball.  Very good positional sense.

I was reading that that ratings-wise, he was rated 16th best Bundesliga player.  That is impressive.

Klopp says only 4 clubs in Germany could have afforded to buy him.

The fact the lad would not join another German club (18 years at Schawke) - and was a free at the end of his contract - and obviously knew Klopp....is an angle for Liverpool to exploit.  Klopp will know that market well, and can maybe exploit it....and for cheap money/free.

He also seems like the loyal, level headed sort too, so hopefully he'll fit in well and fall in love with the club as so many ex players have done. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on February 19, 2016, 10:45:19 PM
He also seems like the loyal, level headed sort too, so hopefully he'll fit in well and fall in love with the club as so many ex players have done.

good point.

the type of lad that understands loyalty, and will appreciate the Kop being loved by the fans.

a love affair in the offing - between him and the Kop.

Klopp will have no doubt already sold him on the club and the fans.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on March 02, 2016, 07:08:17 PM
From: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/649122/Our-man-Paul-Joyce-reveals-Jurgen-Klopp-wants-sign-sell-Liverpool-overhaul-News-Gossip (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/649122/Our-man-Paul-Joyce-reveals-Jurgen-Klopp-wants-sign-sell-Liverpool-overhaul-News-Gossip)

Liverpool need a new spine. When Carlo Ancelotti was sounded out to succeed Brendan Rodgers back in October, he made that very point to owners, Fenway Sports Group.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on March 29, 2016, 04:05:49 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656381/Exclusive-Paul-Joyce-on-World-Cup-winner-Mario-Gotze-s-20m-move-to-Liverpool (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656381/Exclusive-Paul-Joyce-on-World-Cup-winner-Mario-Gotze-s-20m-move-to-Liverpool)

Gotze for sub £20M? Interesting. Gotze, imho, moved at too young an age to Bayern, and if there's someone who could put his career back on track and help him realise his early potential, then Klopp has to be one of the favourites. It would have to mean someone like Lallana moving on, but then depending on the sums involved both ways, we could be acquiring Gotze for just a few £M. As I said, interesting.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on March 29, 2016, 06:27:30 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656381/Exclusive-Paul-Joyce-on-World-Cup-winner-Mario-Gotze-s-20m-move-to-Liverpool (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656381/Exclusive-Paul-Joyce-on-World-Cup-winner-Mario-Gotze-s-20m-move-to-Liverpool)

Gotze for sub £20M? Interesting. Gotze, imho, moved at too young an age to Bayern, and if there's someone who could put his career back on track and help him realise his early potential, then Klopp has to be one of the favourites. It would have to mean someone like Lallana moving on, but then depending on the sums involved both ways, we could be acquiring Gotze for just a few £M. As I said, interesting.

yes, I was blown away by the 15 to 20 million for Mario Gotze too.

the guy is technically world class - is well used to Klopp's pressing system - can score goals - whether operating as an attacking midfielder, striker, or he can even play on the wing.

lallanha has been playing well this past month - I think he is being advised by Klopp to react quicker - quicker flicks, quicker passes, being aware quicker of colleagues positions, etc.  He has definitely improved with his performances - but still no goals of note.  I am unsure if he will let him go, or not.  Lalanha would be a good squad player - someone to bring on, or fill in for injuries. 

I imagine we will be letting the other midfielder Joe Allen move on this summer.

No matter what way you look at it - bringing Gotze in, will be a major upgrade to our existing midfield/attack.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on March 29, 2016, 10:44:47 PM
yes, I was blown away by the 15 to 20 million for Mario Gotze too.

the guy is technically world class - is well used to Klopp's pressing system - can score goals - whether operating as an attacking midfielder, striker, or he can even play on the wing.

lallanha has been playing well this past month - I think he is being advised by Klopp to react quicker - quicker flicks, quicker passes, being aware quicker of colleagues positions, etc.  He has definitely improved with his performances - but still no goals of note.  I am unsure if he will let him go, or not.  Lalanha would be a good squad player - someone to bring on, or fill in for injuries. 

I imagine we will be letting the other midfielder Joe Allen move on this summer.

No matter what way you look at it - bringing Gotze in, will be a major upgrade to our existing midfield/attack.

Gotze's contract runs out next Summer and with Bayern not offering him a new one in their latest round of contract offers, I guess they're prepared to cash in.

My thinking with maybe Lallana moving on is whether he'd be prepaid to play a lesser role, and would Klopp have to do some juggling of the payroll in order to accomodate Gotze. The owners would probably prefer to see 'a Lallana sold for every Gotze bought' sort of thing.

In terms of the squad, if Klopp looks like favouring (though not exclusively) a 4-2-3-1, then Lallana only makes it 4 into 3, alongside Gotze, Firmino and Coutinho, so we'd hardly be overmanned, but the owners could see it differently. Additionally, Coutinho and Lallana always have a period of injury, so in terms of squad numbers it's sensible to keep Lallana. Wage bill numbers may say different though, as even with clearing out several peripheral players, I'd imagine our overall wage bill would still rise, unless the rumoured £50M PSG interest in Sturridge turns into something concrete, and even then, you'd think he'd have to be replaced, whether Benteke stays or not.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Edward224 on March 29, 2016, 11:05:46 PM
Trimming the fat would make our payroll just fine, even with top class additions.

Getting rid of Balotelli and Benteke is almost £200k p/w right there. Moving on the likes of Skrtel, Moreno, Lucas, Allen, Enrique and maybe even Milner (but I think he'll stay) would keep our salary in check.

I'd rather have one player on £180k p/w than two on £90k p/w
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on March 29, 2016, 11:47:40 PM
Trimming the fat would make our payroll just fine, even with top class additions.

Getting rid of Balotelli and Benteke is almost £200k p/w right there. Moving on the likes of Skrtel, Moreno, Lucas, Allen, Enrique and maybe even Milner (but I think he'll stay) would keep our salary in check.

I'd rather have one player on £180k p/w than two on £90k p/w

Some of the fat may be easier to trim and the leaner the fat the easier trimmed but smaller the saving.

It would depend who you were paying the respective salaries to, but I know what you're meaning, and I agree, but as we've seen in the past, getting rid of players that are on a salary which is not likely to be equalled at any of the standard of clubs they're likely to attract, is far easier to create the wish list than achieve it.

Out of the list for example, Skrtel could be more difficult than it would appear. Previous links have been with Italian clubs and they wouldn't equal what he's on here. Ditto Moreno, unless it's Barca or Real.
Lucas and Allen would go after first team football, so shouldn't be a chore. Enrique's thankfully out of contract, but Milner could prove hard to shift, despite his professionalism etc.

Benteke would require a moneybags club to match his salary and would anyone want to pay out both a transfer fee and salary commensurate with his Anfield one for Balotelli?
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on March 29, 2016, 11:49:54 PM
Watford explore summer moves for Liverpool pair Joe Allen and Jordon Ibe

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/29/liverpool-joe-allen-jordon-ibe-watford-summer-transfer (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/29/liverpool-joe-allen-jordon-ibe-watford-summer-transfer)

Swansea might have something to say about Allen, now Rodgers will be back there from the end of this season, and maybe Ibe on loan rather than a permanent sale at this point.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on March 30, 2016, 04:01:40 PM
Trimming the fat would make our payroll just fine, even with top class additions.

Getting rid of Balotelli and Benteke is almost £200k p/w right there. Moving on the likes of Skrtel, Moreno, Lucas, Allen, Enrique and maybe even Milner (but I think he'll stay) would keep our salary in check.

I'd rather have one player on £180k p/w than two on £90k p/w

Skrtel, Allen and Enrique, definitely.....altho Allen has impressed me, these past 4 months, with his effort when called upon.  Klopp has used him well.

Moving on Balotelli and Benteke may prove hard - given the big wages they are on.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on March 30, 2016, 04:04:52 PM
https://youtu.be/0_ICqnQVJdg (https://youtu.be/0_ICqnQVJdg)

Mario Gotze.

as well as scoring the second German goal - just look at 2 minutes 20 seconds above, for Super Mario's awesome back-heel-drag type flick, that entirely opens up the Italian defence, and allows Hector to score the third goal.

World class.

And it's those type of quick flicks/reactions that I have been seeing Lallahana starting to do in recent weeks.  I think Klopp's training techniques are working their magic at Melwood.


Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on March 30, 2016, 11:01:01 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656901/Liverpool-Transfer-Mario-Balotelli-China-transfer-gossip-news (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656901/Liverpool-Transfer-Mario-Balotelli-China-transfer-gossip-news)

Please make it happen. It's our only chance of being rid of him, outside of paying up the remainder of his contract.

Some players will be harder to shift than it would appear on the surface.

Some know this is the biggest contract they're ever likely to have so will do everything to realise it's value.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on April 02, 2016, 11:47:27 PM
Liverpool vs Everton transfer battle over Alexandre Lacazette looms with both clubs looking for a new striker

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-vs-everton-transfer-battle-7675543 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-vs-everton-transfer-battle-7675543)


The best we can hope for re Benteke is that we can sell him for what his replacement costs, especially if there's a grain of truth in Lacazette being available for £22M. Whilst it would seem like we'd lose £10.5M, our actual loss, at least in the accounts would be far less. I can't remember the length of contract Benteke signed, but if it was a 4 year one, then his value in the accounts will be around £24M, so Lacazette for £22M would only represent a £2M loss approximately, excluding fees and possibly VAT.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on April 03, 2016, 03:38:53 AM
Liverpool vs Everton transfer battle over Alexandre Lacazette looms with both clubs looking for a new striker

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-vs-everton-transfer-battle-7675543 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-vs-everton-transfer-battle-7675543)


The best we can hope for re Benteke is that we can sell him for what his replacement costs, especially if there's a grain of truth in Lacazette being available for £22M. Whilst it would seem like we'd lose £10.5M, our actual loss, at least in the accounts would be far less. I can't remember the length of contract Benteke signed, but if it was a 4 year one, then his value in the accounts will be around £24M, so Lacazette for £22M would only represent a £2M loss approximately, excluding fees and possibly VAT.

Lanzarote - why does the club buy players who I cannot spell.  This seems to be a recurring theme.

it sounds like Klopp is gonna make a lot of changes this summer.

Yes, if we could get rid of Benteke, and even make a loss of a few millions, it would be great business.  To be honest, while the going is good, I would ship out Sturridge too.   I do not like his attitude.  He was at it again today when subbed.   And the lad seems to think he is world class and indispensable.  Nope, not for a second.    Far better players have come and gone.

We need a new central defence partnership - maybe two new men in there - maybe Lovren can be one, I dunno. 
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on April 06, 2016, 03:01:45 PM
Liverpool striker deal: Club ready £37m bid for international ace, player wants move ATLETICO MADRID will reportedly get financial help to lodge a big-money bid for Liverpool striker Christian Benteke this summer.http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/658669/Atletico-Madrid-Liverpool-Qatari-money-Christian-Benteke-transfer (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/658669/Atletico-Madrid-Liverpool-Qatari-money-Christian-Benteke-transfer)

please let it be so!





Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on April 11, 2016, 01:04:56 AM
Liverpool striker deal: Club ready £37m bid for international ace, player wants move ATLETICO MADRID will reportedly get financial help to lodge a big-money bid for Liverpool striker Christian Benteke this summer.http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/658669/Atletico-Madrid-Liverpool-Qatari-money-Christian-Benteke-transfer (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/658669/Atletico-Madrid-Liverpool-Qatari-money-Christian-Benteke-transfer)

please let it be so!

Wow. If they do that we'll throw in a free Balotelli by way of showing our gratitude. Anything over £30M would be a real coup, as we once again showed our ability to vastly overpay for a seemingly square peg.

Hopefully Klopp will educate our owners over the next few seasons and show them that paying huge sums for established PL players is not the way to go. Investing that money in a strong, keen eyed scouting network and setup at the club will reap far bigger dividends, and that there are both better quality and value outside of the PL, and that a PL player is not guaranteed to be any more successful if they're stepping up from playing for a club with lesser expectations than our's.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on April 11, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
Hopefully Klopp will educate our owners over the next few seasons and show them that paying huge sums for established PL players is not the way to go. Investing that money in a strong, keen eyed scouting network and setup at the club will reap far bigger dividends, and that there are both better quality and value outside of the PL

absolutely.

And look at Man City - and what a poor return their owners have had, despite all their massive spending on players.

They key as you say, is a top notch scouting network.

But I must say, Klopp and his own people, seem to have effectively made the old Transfer Committee redundant.  The players we are now linked to, seem to be all initiated by Klopp and his inner circle. 

And on a similar vein.  I was reading over the weekend, that their Boston franchise is not doing so well either - and that FSG are admititng that entirely focussing on data crunching (moneyball) was not maybe the right way to go.  Maybe their arrogance has been lanced.  Maybe they will now allow industry-savy people, to build a proper team/squad.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: the dude abides on April 11, 2016, 04:48:27 PM
(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/506449964.jpg?w=748&h=498&crop=1)

Liverpool target Piotr Zielinski has confirmed that he has had transfer talks with Reds boss Jurgen Klopp.

Zielinski, who is currently on loan at Empoli from Udinese, is being strongly linked with a move to Anfield and his comments would suggest he could be joining the Merseyside outfit in the near future.

‘There is a lot of truth in rumours about Liverpool, Jurgen Klopp is interested in me, we had some talks,’ Zielinski told Polish outlet Sportowe Fakty.

‘I’m not thinking too much about it right now though, I’ve still got few games to play for Empoli and after that there is still Euro 2016 in France.’

Klopp is filling our future central midfield out with top notch emerging talent from Eastern Europe.

As a German, I imagine he knows that market very well.  I wonder how many Eastern Europeans he had at Dortmund.

Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on April 18, 2016, 11:38:41 PM
There were a trio of Poles:

http://worldsoccertalk.com/2013/04/02/where-borussia-dortmunds-trio-of-star-polish-players-could-be-heading-in-the-premier-league/ (http://worldsoccertalk.com/2013/04/02/where-borussia-dortmunds-trio-of-star-polish-players-could-be-heading-in-the-premier-league/)
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on April 24, 2016, 10:49:07 AM
Now it really is 'silly season':

Man United want to sell star winger: Liverpool could snap him up on cheap

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/510371/Memphis-Man-United-transfer-news (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/510371/Memphis-Man-United-transfer-news)


"He has been criticised for his lacklustre displays on the pitch and his flashy lifestyle off it.".

Sounds exactly like the sort of player Klopp would fight tooth and nail for to bring into the squad. Not. Definitely not.
Title: Re: Summer Transfer Window 2016
Post by: Tes on April 24, 2016, 10:54:10 AM
Milan ask Liverpool for Balotelli

http://www.football-italia.net/83291/milan-ask-liverpool-balotelli (http://www.football-italia.net/83291/milan-ask-liverpool-balotelli)

No more loans. Buy him outright for hard cash. £10M. By Milan wanting him they'v