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Liverpool FC, football, sport / We're back - sort of...
« on: June 30, 2015, 09:53:03 AM »
I've managed to get the forum back - as you can see - using a different url to keep it separate from the main site for now in case of hacks and so on.

Loads of things won't be working properly yet so bear with me as I try and sort them!


Liverpool FC, football, sport / The Anfield Wrap podcast
« on: November 06, 2011, 11:27:21 PM »
Posting this as a joint plug for a podcast and also to test that the broken forum is working again.

Apologies the forum's not been working well for the last week or so in particular, it's had a move of server and decided to sulk a little bit.

As for the podcast, we're onto episode 15 tomorrow, if you've not caught it yet have a look - http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/category/podcast-2/. Tomorrow's edition will be out around 4pm.

Controversial? You bet. It's Rafa. What else would it be? This will make every Liverpool fan angry. Just use the anger on the owners.

Hope St Hotel this morning. Liverpool Supporter's Club this lunchtime. Anfield this afternoon.

'Liverpool is my home and I will come back'

Sunday October 03 2010
'Football is a lie.' Anybody who has spent any time with Rafael Benitez will have heard these words. There are a million lies in football, a hundred thousand ways for the flimflam men and the bullshitters to prosper.

For Liverpool to prosper, it was concluded that Benitez would have to leave. His exit, it was said, would lead to an explosion of joy among the ranks of the players who had been worn down by his obsessiveness, his relentless demands and his cold, cold heart. The club, it was said, needed a break from his plotting. Things could only get better.

Today, as Benitez's Inter Milan face Juventus at the San Siro, Liverpool play a team one point above them in the Premier League: Blackpool. Before the game, the supporters will be marching in the streets in protest against Tom Hicks and George Gillett whose duplicity Benitez did so much to expose. The chief executive Christian Purslow, brought in to sell the club, is still there, still looking for owners, still reassuring the key players that all will be well. Within days, Liverpool could be in administration but, for many Liverpool fans, the possible nine-point penalty (there could be a loophole which allows Liverpool to avoid it which would almost certainly lead to a legal objection from Liverpool's challengers) is preferable to Hicks and Gillett refinancing. On the pitch, Roy Hodgson, the man Purslow appointed, appears to have made things worse.

And all it took was the removal of Benitez to bring the feel-good factor back.

Many ignored the complexities involved in managing a club owned by leverage kings while Benitez was in charge. Only now is the extent of his achievement becoming clear.

His refusal to play the media game or to back down or to be pragmatic in any way alienated those who form opinion. For a long time, nobody listened to their opinions at Anfield. In the last year, they did.

"Did we make mistakes? Obviously," Benitez said last week. "But 82, 86 points, four trophies, three more finals in a difficult time when the owners were changing, when the chief executives were changing. A lot of things were changing. Now people can see it, no? It was a big, big problem."

Benitez took the hits but held the club together. If he was shunned by the opinion-formers, it wasn't because he wasn't political. In the last year he went, as one ally puts it, "to war". He always felt there was a better way to do things

Benitez wants to look forward to his challenge at Inter, it is how he has persuaded himself a football man should be, but he cannot shake the sadness about his departure from the club and the city he and his family love. Those who know him well say he is more relaxed now than he was during that draining final twelve months.

After three hours in his company on Wednesday, I could see why his friends want him to talk to the media more often. David Conachy, the Sunday Independent photographer, was surprised by his warmth and wit, having expected a brooding, more explosive, presence.

But Benitez is wary too. Football is a lie and he has observed how some use the media to promote their versions of the story. At one point, he jumps from his seat, refusing to pose in a certain way because it is, he says, the kind of picture one of his enemies would sit for. Above all else, he is wary of being a phoney.

Liverpool, it was said, needed a manager who would put his arm around a player's shoulder. But they can't hug out their problems, as Hodgson is discovering.

"Everybody has weak points and I have weak points for sure," Benitez says. "People say I don't put my arm round the shoulder. It's not true. I am talking to the players every day. I like to know about them but my priority is football."

His priority has always been football. "I have been doing this job all my life," he says and it is barely an exaggeration. "Always in my head I was a manager."

He talks about his childhood in terms of football. His father was a commercial director of a hotel -- "he didn't like too much football" -- and a busy man so "I remember my mother taking me to the Bernabeu for training".

His career as a player was ended by injury but he was ready. Managing is his lifetime's work. He sleeps a few hours each night and he is always thinking of ways to be better. He may think too much.

"I think the manager is eternally dissatisfied because he wants more and more and more. I'm this kind of manager. I like to improve, to do better every time. Some times you know that you will need more time so you have to be calm but still you have to improve."

Does he ever look back on his great nights with pride and contentment?

"I have notes of everything, every single season, every single day. What I did this, or how I changed my approach to a player. One hundred per cent, I am analysing and I am always talking to my staff."

It's hardly The Time of Our Lives with Jeff Stelling. Benitez couldn't act clubbable. Last month, Jamie Carragher gave an interview in which he talked of the need for Liverpool to get back to traditional values.

"We've had situations like Martin O'Neill and Steve Bruce criticising Liverpool and they were right," Carragher said. "We shouldn't be getting involved with stuff like that. Everyone else should look at Liverpool and say they have dignity, class. I mean, like the way people look at Arsenal."

It was unfortunate timing as Arsene Wenger then spent the next month fighting with everyone, including match officials.

"I didn't see his quote but I like Carra as a player and he has to keep focusing on doing things well for Liverpool. Maybe he has an opinion but I don't think Shankly would agree with him. For me the manager of Liverpool Football Club has to defend the club and his players against everyone. The name of the other manager doesn't matter. If you know the story inside you will understand why these managers are talking and I think for our fans it's very clear.

"If you see the friends that these people have you will understand why. It's obvious that there are people who are close to some people and they like to protect each other."

Benitez was apart and, equally as dangerously, became convinced of his own separateness. Again, it is the way he believes a manager has to be.

"When you work hard and you have an idea and you want to carry on with your idea people say 'oh you are stubborn'. I think you have to have a conviction when you work with the players, when you know the players and when you talk with your staff. It's essential if you want to convince them. All the managers have the same idea."

He was a physical education teacher and one of the ways he sees himself as different to his predecessor at Inter, Jose Mourinho, is in his approach to footballers.

"I like to teach them. I am sure if they learn they will know things for the rest of their lives. If you can win in one year with the best players, saying we have to win this game, this game, the next game that's one way. But when you teach them the way and you ask them how to do things, it's different. At the end, they will know and they will remember all their lives."

He is trying to change things at Inter while keeping the things they did well under Mourinho. Before he arrived in Milan, he read in the Spanish press how Mourinho could control everything from his manager's office at the Angelo Moratti Training Centre. There was a window with a panoramic view that allowed him to see all that was happening on the training fields. During my time in Benitez's spartan office on Wednesday, I couldn't see this window. Football is a lie.

Mourinho's achievements cannot be disputed but Benitez would not be the man he is if he didn't think he could do more.

"The players are happy because we are trying to play more football, more on the floor, the passing is better. They were doing good things in the past and especially in the transition, the counter-attack, they were quite good. Now we have more possession but it takes time to adjust. It will be almost impossible to win more trophies in one year, we know that, but at least we will try to win some of them with style."

Inter are top of Serie A but one defeat is a crisis in Italy. He has the squad that won the European Cup, but he may have liked to have new faces to challenge the players who achieved so much last season.

Benitez is not going to rest on somebody else's laurels. On Wednesday night, Inter beat Werder Bremen 4-0. It was an important result but again perhaps football lied as it was not a performance that merited 4-0.

Inter suits Benitez too. He looks to Turin, to Juventus and sees the questionable powerbase of Italian football. He looks to the south, to Rome and sees the capital with its influence and he looks to Milanello, AC Milan's famed training camp and he sees Silvio Berlusconi and his authority. Italy is the kind of country where a man can collect enemies.

His friends from Liverpool are still around. They are thinking about Inter now but they form a government in exile, always aware of what is happening at the club they love.

He has changed, he says, everybody changes. The former Real Madrid manager Luis Molowny, who died earlier this year, once told him that it is important to be patient. Molowny's name is written on a piece of paper pinned to his office wall so his advice is on his mind. He says he is more patient now than he used to be.

The signings that didn't work out at Liverpool might be among the things he'd change. "I'll say it again, we made mistakes. But people are talking about players who were not good enough, if you put five or six of these players together, the cost would be five million. It's not easy to wheel and deal and at the same time to win and sign players like Torres, Reina, Mascherano, Aquilani, Skrtel, Johnson, Lucas Leiva, Agger or Kuyt."

These are the players he left behind. "I was very clear that when I left we had a better squad than we had in the past, and a better team. We knew we had to bring in better players. We left a good team, a very good team. A lot of people are talking about the legacy but the legacy is fantastic. When I left the club, Mascherano, Benayoun and Riera were there, along with Carra, Gerrard, Spearing, Darby. Insua, Cavalieri and Shelvey. They cannot talk about legacy when Purslow and Hodgson signed seven players. They have already changed the squad."

Gerard Houllier said he left a legacy too, claiming that in Istanbul the players told him it was his side that had won the European Cup. "I didn't see Houllier on the way to Istanbul or at half-time," he said sardonically. "After the game, I gave him permission to come into the dressing room and we couldn't get him out, even with boiling water! That's a Spanish expression."

Among Benitez's mistakes were Robbie Keane and the alienation of Xabi Alonso in one crucial summer. Keane was, he says, a "good player and a fantastic professional who needed a target man with him". But, crucially, Gareth Barry was Benitez's priority. "Barry was the first but I was not doing the business and I couldn't control it. The timing was a problem. I thought we had the money and it was obvious we didn't have the money."

Benitez had rumbled Hicks and Gillett before this but as they scrambled and failed to find the money for Barry, his plans unravelled. The collateral damage was significant too: Xabi Alonso was lost.

"In the last season Alonso played his best season for us. That is the reason people are talking about him. It was his last year when he gave us his best."

In Alonso's last season, Benitez drove his team towards the title. Liverpool finished second, a stunning achievement given his resources and the apocalypse that was heading Liverpool's way thanks to Hicks and Gillett and the recession caused by men like them.

Benitez's handling of the attempted sale of Alonso the year before alienated the player and ensured he would go. But Benitez planned to replace him with Alberto Aquilani and the Montenegrin Stevan Jovetic. The sale of Alonso was a controversial and ruthless decision and, as so often at Liverpool, he wasn't allowed full control of the solution.

Instead he was given half of what he asked for. Suddenly the money disappeared, as it tends to when working for the indebted. Benitez's last season began with Liverpool as many people's title favourites. But the manager couldn't conceal the club's problems anymore.

"It was a long time, it wasn't just one thing," he says of the process that wore him down. "The feeling was that something was wrong, we couldn't do what we wanted to do. We were preparing the signings and the sales but we could see that we have some targets and we didn't do it."

Christian Purslow was the new chief executive. Rick Parry had infuriated Benitez with the pace at which he got things done but he insists there was nothing personal. "I had a very good relationship with David Moores and Rick Parry but the only thing I wanted to do was to do things quicker because we didn't have too much money. To be fair, sometimes we were doing good business without big money and sometimes we lost players. After the Americans arrived, everything changed. I thought it would be easier the first year, we signed Torres and everything was going well but little by little we had some money problems and all the decisions were subject to the money issues."

It is the most understated way of describing the meltdown. The last season became attritional. Stories filtered out about an unhappy squad, how Rafa had lost the dressing room.

"It's not true that I lost the dressing room. It was obvious that maybe some players were not happy but the majority of the players were very good professionals who were surprised by these stories in the same newspapers by the same journalists. Who was leaking them?"

He wasn't looking to be loved but he believed he would stay at Liverpool.

Last week Christian Purslow remarked that "Rafa's exit was about as clearcut a case of mutual consent as I have ever been involved in in my life. Both sides thought it was time for a change, both sides said so at the time, if you go back and check."

Benitez saw his comment. "I read that he said this -- I was preparing for the next season but after the meeting with Mr Broughton and Mr Purslow I realised that I had to accept the offer they made. I was very sad and my family were devastated when we realised after these meetings that we would leave. I knew I had to go."

He will not be drawn on what changed but after a couple of summers being denied the money he thought he was getting, it's not hard to conclude that his transfer budget and the money he would get from player sales had something to do with it.

He remains attached to the place. He is aware of the protests against Tom Hicks and George Gillett but doesn't want to talk too much out of "respect for the fans and the club". All he knows is that the club is still looking for investment a year after being told the cavalry was on its way. Christian Purslow is nobody's idea of the cavalry.

Benitez spent last year waiting for the investment, meeting with potential investors. Now he has a new challenge while survival is Liverpool's.

But Liverpool is a part of him. It is the place he and his wife call home.

"I am monitoring carefully everything that's going on there. I have a lot of friends there and I received a 'Justice' scarf from the Hillsborough families group that is in my office at home. Again out of respect I think it is important that I talk a little bit about the past but especially about the future. For me, at this moment, that is Inter Milan. I keep my house there, we are based in Liverpool and in the future we will be there again."

Right now, he thinks about Inter and the challenges but he knows more than most what football can bring and how he might return.

"You never know, football is football. It could be in five years' time, ten years' time, two years' time. We have two years of a contract here, we are really pleased here, the people are very nice, the fans are very similar to Liverpool fans, with passion, so everything is going well."

But Liverpool is home? "Yeah-it's the only house we have. Liverpool is my home and I will come back."

In his last year, he fought many battles in pursuit of victory in one war. He wanted the right to do things as he wanted to do them. He wanted so much, he always did, and he always wanted more.

Those close to Benitez dismiss Purslow as a man who thought he knew too much about too many things. It is a criticism many have thrown at Rafa too. They saw him as a political animal and he was unwavering in his belief that his way was the right way.

But they underestimated him too, they always have. They concluded that he was cunning. He wasn't cunning, he just wasn't as pliable as some expected.

With his dishevelled appearance and his lack of personal vanity, Benitez is football's Lieutenant Columbo. And he is always looking for 'just one more thing'. The obsessional pursuit drove him mad and brought him into dangerous conflict with the powers that remain at Liverpool. But he knew no other way. He didn't ask for much: only perfection.

On Wednesday, David Conachy was pushing Rafa for more pictures. He doesn't like having his picture taken or, more precisely, he doesn't like having a certain type of picture taken. Dave wanted to take every type of picture.

"Just one more," Dave said to him several times.

"You always say just one more," Rafa smiled, looking at his watch, as he tried to get away.

"He's a perfectionist, Rafa, you can understand that," I said.

Rafa looked at me. "I didn't say it was bad. It's just dangerous."

Sunday Independent



Good morning, Mr Hicks. My name is Bond and I’m here to rescue Liverpool

Saturday soapbox: This week: Mike Jefferies

So Tom Hicks wants to refinance the loans that he and George Gillett Jr took out to buy Liverpool Football Club. The same loans that these charlatans promised not to burden the club with. But then did.

Has he no shame? At least Gillett seems to have done a partly decent thing and crawled back under his rock.

I have to ask whether Hicks is so thick-skinned that he doesn’t care that he has become one of the most despised people on Merseyside.

He must know the depth of loathing, but, just in case, we are spending this weekend putting together an anti-Hicks film that I hope will become a YouTube sensation. It can take the message right to his front door.

There is only so much true fans can do, within the law. The green-and-gold campaigners are striving to drive the Glazers out of Manchester United, but it is hard to get the message through to these remote owners with no care for the ordinary, paying fan.

Hicks certainly pays no attention to protest marches or sit-ins in Liverpool. So thank God for the internet and YouTube, which will allow us to take our message to him, into his immediate community.

Our aim is to embarrass him and I can assure Hicks that the messages we will be filming with hugely talented, recognisable faces in the world of movies, TV, music, sport and beyond will do that.

This film can be seen anywhere, by anyone, and I wish Hicks good luck (actually no, I take that back) explaining it to his friends, family and business associates over there in Texas.

My lips are sealed regarding which stars are coming in, but one name that the media keep bringing up is Daniel Craig. He’s a big LFC fan and he’s certainly been invited. Maybe we can get 007 to go and pay Hicks a visit. That would be fun.

It’s astonishing that we are having to make this film at all, but we have to send the message, any way we can, that Hicks must show some decency. Sell the club to a new owner who has a connection with the heritage of the club and has the desire and resources to invest so that we can become competitive again.

I’ve been in Liverpool for a couple of days prepping the film and, while the response from famous Reds has been overwhelming, what is worrying is that most fans I’ve talked to don’t really understand how bad things could become under Hicks if he refinances the debt and hang on to the club.

If this situation persists, Torres and Stevie G may leave Anfield because they want to win things. Reina, too. And who could blame them?

Then there is the doomsday scenario of RBS foreclosing this month and “repossessing” the club with a view to selling it — and Hicks employing expensive lawyers to injunct and fight it, bringing this great club to a state of paralysis.

This cannot be allowed to happen, which is why thousands of fans have been protesting, holding sit-ins, bombarding Hicks and the banks with messages. Now some famous ones will be doing their bit on screen.

It has to be worth a try. By next week, our film will be up on the internet, spreading around the world and causing Tom Hicks maximum embarrassment.

• Mike Jefferies is a screenwriter and film producer who co-wrote the Goal! movies. He is working on a book about the making of Goal! and a biopic of Jesse Owens. Twitter via http://twitter.com/mikejefferiesL4

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Deadline day
« on: August 31, 2010, 10:53:12 AM »
The last day of August, a day that traditionally starts out with a feeling of much hope but ends with a feeling of "why did I fall for this again?"

Liverpool might actually do a lot of business today, definitely some of the fringe players going out today.

Try to explain your source if you post anything (like SSN, BBC, "agent told BBC", "he just stood on my toe outside Melwood") and let's see how many of the stories come true.

The Rest / Donations and suggestions
« on: August 18, 2010, 03:47:01 PM »
Hi all,

As you'll have probably noticed, the site's had more trouble than ever of late trying to keep up with the number of visitors (on the main site at least) - so after having it suggested a couple of times I'm going to add a donation button.


This will hopefully help towards the costs of running the site now that there's more bandwidth being used and might even help cover the cost of upgrading the server.

There's no obligation to donate and certainly for the time being it won't make any difference to what level of access or features you get if you've donated or not.

It would be good to be able to spend more time researching and writing articles than tweaking the settings on the server. I might then get some time to start sorting out the ads so we're not advertising the official shirts from two years ago!

I want to start making more use of the forum and contributing to it myself a lot more. I'd like to add more features that link this forum to the main site and also perhaps find a way of including some of what we post on Twitter on here, so that can be discussed too.

We've a few ideas in mind (still looking into how to do them the best way) but as well as being happy to get any donations we'd be happy to hear any suggestions (appropriate ones!) on features that would be good or bad for the forum and also on the main site.

So - suggestions please!

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Forum downtime
« on: March 26, 2010, 07:56:18 AM »
Apologies for the forum being down recently and thanks to Redman for letting me know about it.

Had some illness in the family for the past few weeks (nothing major to worry about) and what free time I've had I've just been too worn out to get near the AnfieldRoad site.

I usually get a warning message when there's a problem with the database but not this time for some reason.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / LFC.tv - Kop Talkin'
« on: September 17, 2009, 06:49:29 PM »
Something for you all to have a laugh at after the ressies have played the Mancs:


Jimmy Rice 17 September 2009

Three ardent Kopites will be in the LFC TV studios tonight to debate the burning issues affecting Liverpool.
Supporters Gary Shaw, Neil Sinclair and Jim Boardman will discuss last night's match, our sponsorship deal, Michael Shields, the new Premier League homegrown quota and our forthcoming fixtures.
Make sure you're tuned into LFC TV from 9.45pm BST for this must-see show.
LFC TV was previously only available as part of the Setanta Sports Pack but following the Irish broadcaster entering into administration in June, the club have made the channel available for free on Sky Channel 434 and Virgin Media channel 544.
If you didn't previously subscribe to Setanta and haven't seen LFC TV before, this is your chance to watch the first channel dedicated entirely to England's most successful football club for free.
LFC TV is available to watch free on Sky Channel 434 and as part of the XL package on Virgin Media.

Daily Mirror columnist Brian Reade brought out his new book on Friday, charting 43 years of his life as a supporter of Liverpool Football Club.

Reade is a passionate, Kop-season-ticket-holding, Red, and his book intends to show just what it is that has given him that passion.

He's won awards for his columns, which are always witty and straight to the point, and so his book should be on the must-read list for any Liverpool fan.

He's called it "43 years with the same bird" and you know which bird he's talking about.

It's the bird that has been on the shirt of the captain each time one of the 48 trophies was lifted during those 43 years. Reade talks about his memories of the FA Cup run in 1965, right at the start of the 43 years, and then on through the others, including five European Cups, 12 league titles, the years when Liverpool couldn't stop winning the League Cup, the FA Cup wins, and of course the times when it didn't all work out.

He covers the dark days in 1985 and 1989 as you would expect, and covers it from the perspective of somebody who was there.

As you'd expect from Reade, there are obviously going to be funny moments - like the time he found out his son had joined the dark side, and was now an Everton fan. He talks about meeting Bill Shankly, a story that in itself is worth buying the book for.

Actually you can read the Shanks story below, as a taster, but it's just one of so many tales that make this book into one that it would be hard for a Liverpool fan not to enjoy.

If you do think you'd like to get hold of a copy, you'll find a link below for buying the book, which includes a discount code you can use for 30% off.

Bill Shankly's bare manhood stood three feet away from me. OK, stood is an exaggeration. We were getting on well, but not that well.

Slacks with a crease that could shave a werewolf's four-day shadow had been removed and placed on a dressing-room hook with his left hand. In his right was a pair of crumpled shorts so old you could smell the Boot Room on them. Then a question: "What school are you from again, son?"

"De La Salle."

And the shorts, which had made their way to the expectant toes of his left foot, were abruptly pulled away.

"A rugby school?"

"No. Football."

Relief. Then animation.

"Thank Christ for that. I hate rugby. I remember turning up at a new Air Force post in Wales and asking for a football. This officer says to me 'We don't play football here, only rugby.' So I says right, give me a rugby ball and I'll squeeze it intee a fitball."

He burst into a raucous laugh and began to squeeze an imaginary oval ball into around shape. "Christ, it's funny what things come back to you. I'd forgotten all about that."

Let's get this straight. I'm joshing away with Bill Shankly at Melwood training ground like a groom and best man before a stag night.

I've been in his company only five minutes and he's already told me a story nobody has ever heard before. Granted, in the league table of Shankly anecdotes it's six points behind Stenhousemuir. But it's mine to drop casually into conversations for eternity.

As this dawns on me a shiver jolts the blood.

There's a sigh I have to emit in short bursts for fear of being sucked inside out. Fear drifts from my brain, spreading down to feet doing epileptic taps. It's a feeling I would experience over the next 30 years of professional life before doing an interview.

But I would never feel the pure rush of pride I felt that June morning, knowing that whatever miserable hand life might deal, my self-esteem would never scrape a barrel's bottom. I would always be able to look a boss, a foe or a put-down merchant in the eye and tell them that Bill Shankly once shared a unique anecdote with me.

With his pride and joy dangling in my eye-line. At 17, life could only go downhill.

PS: Huge. Obviously.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Is Pepe a quiet lad?
« on: July 02, 2008, 11:04:33 PM »

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Tennis
« on: June 25, 2008, 08:56:52 PM »
I see it's starting to push football to one side on the back pages.

In a fortnight it'll all be forgotten again for another year.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Auction Night In Aid Of LIAM HARKER
« on: June 20, 2008, 08:54:43 PM »




The auction website Mark as set up for the event is up and running but is not yet fully functional and will be updated on Sunday 27th July,But you can see the items we have for the Auction and plenty more to come in over the coming weeks


As people are aware of Liam Harker the 17 year old devoted Liverpool fan who sadly in May 2008 passed away through a cruel illness of stomach cancer...

Myself and Mark ak Rafa The Gaffer have organised charity auction night in Liams home town of Darlington in the Dolphin Centre on Friday October 3rd..all proceeds going to the 2 cancer trusts that looked after Liam which are ""Teenage Cancer Trust"" as well as ""The North East Cancer Research""

TEENAGE CANCER TRUST (The Main Charity of Liams choice)
Reg. Charity No. 1062559

Reg Charity No 1089464

Myself an Mark have worked so hard to make this Aucton Night a total success,we have been in touch with all clubs from Football,Rugby,Cricket,boxing, darts just about every sport to be honest to help in sending signed items from shirts,balls,pictures,tickets etc etc and we have had a very good response as well as singers,celebs,comedians etc etc again and even retail companies just about every one from different walks of life.

And Big Huge Thank You goes out to Bob at Retro Reds who was ever so kind and generous to donate 28 pics from the Reds legends from the past all signed and cant thank Bob enough ,check them out on our website as well as alot off others on Bobs site which is


We are currently in discussions with a very famous guest speaker and as soon we get the full go ahead will Release further details via the website


Mark is currently compiling a brochure for the evening and will be soon avaiable on the website set up if people want to make a sealed bid if they cant get to the event,and we have some crackers up for auction,i will tell you.

We also taking sponsorships for ROOBS walk up ben nevis which by the way is Liams dad,we have a paypal account set up as well as a bank account so if any 1 wants to make a sponsorship then we would very much appreciate that,we are also going set 2 accounts on just giving
And if any 1 has any contacts for people aho are interested being corporate sponsors for the evening contact me on below email address and will give more details out

If any 1 has any further questions dont hesitate in contacting me at torres2008@tiscali.co.uk or Mark at mark.d.hanson@talk21.com

Thanks again to each and everyone who have helped us out in the past few months

John & Mark

aka Kopitered2005 & Rafa The Gaffer

Taken from other LFC forums, please read...


As people on Liverpool forums are aware of Liam Harker the young 17 y.o. avid Kopite who adored The Red Men.. sadly on May 5th 2008 passed away

Im John Aka Kopitered2005 on RAWK who initially posted the thread as Liam and his family are friend of a friend and thats why i set everything up from opening a thread on RAWK to keep people updated on Liams plight,to the signed shirt he wanted to die in from his RED MEN,to the banner night at anfield where Fellow Reds made in Liams name then onto the donations for Liams Floral Tribute reds all over the world kindly donated to make the fitting tribute at Liams funeral a TRUE LFC SEND OFF

Myself and Mark Aka Rafa The Gaffer are now organising a Charity Auction Night with the go ahead of Liams Father Reuban and Mother Tracey,who is doing a Walk For Liam Ben Nevis Challenge 2008 in September over 3 Days to raise money for the following Charites,

TEENAGE CANCER TRUST (The Main Charity of Liams choice)
Reg. Charity No. 1062559

Reg Charity  No   1089464                                            .

Reg. Charity No. 1058627

Myself an Mark have worked so hard to make this Aucton Night a total success,we have been in touch with all clubs from Football,Rugby,Cricket,boxing,just about every sport to be honest to help in sending signed items from shirts,balls,pictures,tickets etc etc and we have had a very good response as well as singers,celebs,comdeians etc etc again and even retail companies

The event is going to take place mid August in Liams home town of Darlington and the date is yet to be officially confirmed as we are in talks with Guest Speakers etc etc

We are asking if any Fellow Reds can either help wth Auction items they have signed which they would kindly give towards the auction for us to auction off or even sponsor Reuban,Liams dad whos doing the walk in aid of the chosen charities of Liams choice before he sadly passed

Mark is  currently compiling a brochure of all the items we currently have (and there is some crackers that people will be doing a bidding war on)and awaiting on plenty more we have been promised from various clubs,players et etc,

If any Reds can help out in any way shape or form it would be so appreciated,and if its to sponsor Liams dad Reuban i will email you a sponsor form from the teenage cancer trust they have sent to me

you can contact me on torres2008@tiscali.co.uk for further details

Thank You in advance

John aka Kopitered2005
Mark aka Rafa The Gaffer

Liverpool FC, football, sport / SOS Statement - "RTK and SOS"
« on: June 16, 2008, 04:18:37 PM »
From RAWK:

Quote from: Spirit Of Shankly

The People's Front of Judea? The Judean People's Front? Questions have been
raised lately asking why there are two separate fan groups at Liverpool FC.

To make it clear to everyone - there are not.

A meeting was held 2 weeks ago between those involved in the Reclaim The Kop
(RTK) campaign and the Spirit Of Shankly (SOS) Management Committee, a
committee which incidentally, includes people involved in RTK since it's
inception. The meeting was held to explore ways in which the two groups
could not only co-exist, but also work together to achieve our aims. In all
theses respects the meeting went extremely well. It became evident that both
groups can compliment each other and work together in addressing the key
issues that affect all LFC supporters.

RTK has always been about addressing the issue of the match-day atmosphere
and experience; working on it, improving it, and hopefully returning it to
the days when opposing teams feared a visit to Anfield even before they had
set foot on the pitch itself.

RTK are still working with the club on all issues related to the atmosphere
at Anfield. There are lines of communication in place to discuss such issues,
the latest result being the expansion of the vocal section at the back of
The Kop.

Before the formation of SOS, RTK were the only recognised and active
Liverpool FC fan's group. This meant that RTK were often looked upon to
provide leadership at times when fans deemed it necessary. Issues such as
the Athens Ticket protests became RTK tasks. RTK arranged an open Q&A
session with Rick Parry last year to discuss the fall-out from this debacle
and ways in which similar occurrences could be avoided in future. This is
obviously something that would now fall under the jurisdiction of The Union.
Both groups can now work together to hopefully arrange a follow up

Since the formation of SOS, there has been no need for RTK to step
forward as it did in the past, hence the lack of public visibility RTK has
had over the past few months. RTK does not represent all fans. It exists
purely to improve the atmosphere on match-days. RTK recognise that there is
now a new body that represents vocal and non-vocal fans on a much broader
range of issues; a body speaking for us AS ONE. The Union have been active
on these and other fronts, and will continue to be so, leaving RTK to
continue its work on the Anfield atmosphere and experience.

RTK will fall under the umbrella of The Union, reporting fan related issues
into the wider body. RTK fully supports all of the SOS agendas, both short
and long term, and will continue to wholeheartedly support the aims of SOS.

The Union now has a Management Committee in place. The bank account is open
and all the hard work in setting up The Union is finally coming to fruition.
Online memberships will be available sooner rather than later. All the
pieces are starting to fall into place. RTK are now going to form part of
that structure for fan / atmosphere related issues, leaving the wider issues
to the Management Committee and membership of The Union.

There can be no division between Liverpool supporters at this time. This
summer the threat of falling even further behind our main rivals, both
financially and on the pitch, is starker than ever. Throughout the next
fortnight we shall be in touch further; outlining our broader aims in
general and taking the fight to the ownership in particular. We would also
like to restate the importance of ALL of us speaking with ONE voice.

We are all in this together. Strength in numbers.

Spirit Of Shankly and RTK


Liverpool FC, football, sport / Fixtures announced
« on: June 16, 2008, 10:58:22 AM »
The fixtures are out then...

Sunderland first for travelling Liverpool supporters
Posted on June 16th, 2008 by Jim Boardman

Liverpool’s tour dates for next season, along with the dates for their home performances, have been revealed this morning. However, unlike a rock group or comedian who would actually do all they could to get their list of dates out as far and wide as possible, football teams demand payment before you give them this advertising space.

The fixtures are distributed by PA Sport, who maintain that it is a breach of copyright to announce the fixtures without first obtaining an expensive licence from them. They handle these rights for all league clubs, in England and Scotland. There is some debate as to whether it is actually possible to hold a list of events subject to copyright.

For a full list of Liverpool’s fixtures visit the official Liverpool FC website, in particular the article: REDS TO START AT SUNDERLAND.

The article serves as advanced notice for anyone who travels between Merseyside and the North East. The Sunderland area is likely to have a lot of Liverpool fans visiting on August 16th, the opening day of the season. And a week later the travelling will be from the North East to Merseyside, with an influx of Middlesbrough fans expected to exchange the smog of their own town for the bracing air from the Mersey on August 23rd.

The shortest journeys for football supporters in Liverpool are those that consist of a walk across Stanley Park. September 27th sees Liverpool’s supporters doing the walking - possibly past the construction site of their new stadium, because work should be underway by then. On the 17th of January it will be the Everton fans walking past the site of Liverpool’s new ground, on their way to Liverpool’s current ground, their old ground, Anfield.

Another relatively short journey is the one fans take down either the M62 or the East Lancs. The Manchester United team bus will be using one or other on September 13th when it takes their players to Anfield. Six months later Liverpool fans will be travelling the opposite way for a chance to out-sing despite being outnumbered, on March 14th.

All of these dates are of course subject to change, with TV companies now working out which of these events they would like to move by a day or two, or just by a couple of hours.

If you’d like to see the rest of tour dates for the various performers in the league, see the BBC Website.

The announcement of the fixture list allows the LFC Supporters’ Union, Spirit of Shankly, the chance to make firm arrangements for improved travel for Liverpool fans to away games, which is one of their main long term aims.


Liverpool FC, football, sport / Turnaround for Kuyt
« on: June 14, 2008, 07:35:07 AM »
Holland are on fire, two convincing wins against the two WC finalists. And Dirk set them on their way last night.


This position really seems to suit him.

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