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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: January 27, 2016, 11:08:18 PM »
I am, however, a better reader of the game than you are an interpreter of data. That I know for a fact. You can ask any proper statician and they will unanimously tell you, your conclusions are nonsensical unless you perform the exact same analysis for all individual players. Otherwise you will not be able to say for sure wether the results depend on Henderson's inclusion in the team or not. The short version would be - your argument is bollocks.

Mate....
For a man who was the CHIEF backer of Bodgers this is deeply ironic...

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: January 23, 2016, 06:30:54 PM »
Wow...what a game...just think what we'd be like if we could defend...
Top priority is a goalkeeper. Mignolet will never be good enough and quite why he was given a 5 year contract is just bizarre. He couldn't stop a pig in a passage and that's what undermines our defence.
Toure wont be there next season and i'm pretty sure Klopp will bring in a few additions to keep competition keen.
When Klopp took over Dortmund he got rid of 17 players and i have a feeling he'll do the same to the dead wood here. But that'll be in the summer.
Offensively we show great signs of improvement under Klopp. He can change things and that's always good to see. Ibe didnt work in the first half and so lallana came on and completely changed the game. 2-1 down he was instrumental in bringing us back into the game and then scoring the winner.
Firmino up front and if we get Texeira, combined with coutinho would mean that the team would be a handful. This might then take some of the pressure off the defence.
2 key places need to be filled in January. Hopefully Texeira makes our attack click. Mignolet though might make all the difference in our search for trophies or not.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: January 17, 2016, 05:38:06 PM »
smash and grab raid by United.

If we had a decent striker, or midfielders that score the occasional goal, we would have scored two or three today.

Continho could have made all the difference today.

I wouldn't be too despondent after today's result.  We were by far the better side.  We just had no cutting edge.

Agreed...someone decent in strike and in goal would do wonders...Can is our next captain, Milner and Hendo also rans and Lallana a waste of space.
I actually thought we looked more solid in defence today...better than we have done in a long while.
Rooney scored a beautiful goal. It happens.
If we had a decent finisher we would have been 3/4 up but the time Rooney scored.
Not Klopps fault.
We were much the better side.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: doping
« on: January 17, 2016, 05:28:57 PM »
Now that's really interesting...Jan Molby did 6 months with the white stuff...but i have always wondered if there were others out there who took performance enhancing stuff.
Would not be surprised in the least.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: January 11, 2016, 06:11:58 PM »
But the thing is Bart, who in their right minds would pay 25 million for someone who's always injured.

More likely 10 to 15 million will be the range.


Agreed, Dude. Maybe it's mind games to get Sturridge wanting to play again. Nothing else seems to have worked.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: January 10, 2016, 06:00:05 PM »
So it seems our patience with Sturridge has come to an end...we're asking for 25 mil and if anyone came anywhere near that i'd say we grab it...
I assume it's mainly injuries...but perhaps its a psychological thing...that he can only start playing at a big club on 200 k a week...
That he is up for transfer means that Klopp has looked into Daniels eyes and seen the amount of desire that is in there...
Non existent.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: January 02, 2016, 11:51:54 PM »
Reason.

This result was on the cards today. We all saw it and I assume Jurgen will also learn from this.

We obviously need a few experienced players in January. A couple of old experienced hands to fill the gaps and give some stability will be needed. No huge money needs to be spent but i'll assume that Klopp knows a few contenders in the Bundesliga.

Smart move to make the bench so weak.

The stain of Bodgers was heavy here. Benteke has no movement, and the thought as some pundits say that we build our squad around this oil rig is a joke. Benteke will never ever be good enough because he has no movement and little skill.

Milner is obviously missed. He may not seem to do much but Citeh wanted to keep him and without him we've gone to shiite.

Of the players today, you'd keep who? Can, Ibe and Clyne.

Over the past few matches, i've seen 'lesser' teams do the simple things FAR FAR better. Whereas we muddle and dither and spunk any chance that we have.

All is not lost. Klopp will make differences. He will learn. Coutinho/firmino/lallana are the same. One is needed the others are not. 
Lovren and Sakho will never be good enough. At least Sakho was cheaper and to be fair better.
Again was Mignolet good enough?
We were bullied off the ball and dominated in midfield. And still were even when Lazzini went off!
Lucas kills the opposition so wtf was he trying to create?

This is not the worst season, and this is not a crap league. Lesser teams have more money which makes this year far more enjoyable. The best managers will make their teams rise to the top. Some will spend cashloads, some will play to their strengths. Many will fail.

Jurgen has only been here a few months. At first it seemed easy, but reality has come slamming down. This is a good thing.

Interesting times.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: January 01, 2016, 02:38:06 PM »
Very tricky games with both West Ham and Stoke away. Agreed with all about winning the midfield battle. We need to keep our players fresh and so Ibe and Lucas should start with firmino/lallana/coutinho dropped to the bench. A 4-4-2 might be interesting as well with Origi and Benteke up front.
We've been linked with a couple of experienced players from the Bundesliga, a central defender from Borrusia and a 31 yr old goal poacher. Both at 3/4 mil each and worth a gamble if they can bring some steel to our side.
Berahino linked also. Will be too expensive and a waste of our transfer fund.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 20, 2015, 07:13:28 PM »
No I can't. Simply because there has never been such a poor spine. Is there one at all?

We are spineless mate. No goalie, no real decent half, no midfield general and no one to lead the line.

Bodgers sacked off some of them, age caught up with one of them and our lack of ambition in settling for said manager meant that out jewel in the crown wanted to fulfill their ambitions because we never could.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 20, 2015, 07:07:44 PM »
The most worst thing is when players seem to play harder for their club's shirt than Liverpool players, vastly better paid aswell than their contemporaries at the other clubs, seem able to muster for our shirt.
You can forgive a lack of natural skill, but hard work, effort etc should be there regardless.

The problem we've brought on ourselves over the years is that we've overpaid constantly for players, then overpaid them and it seems a qasi comfort zone has been created and a false impression of their talent and quality bestowed on the players.

Absolutely. Overpaid and full of delusions of grandeur. They seem to think we make this MEGA amount of money and we don't have to do anymore. To extremes lead to the player revolts of Chelsea and Manure...
New contracts need to include a lack of performance award...a couple of games is allowed during the season, but if players continuously under perform then they should lose their wages...then there would be hunger and a want to perform.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 20, 2015, 06:56:31 PM »
We have to stop playing a 3 in midfield formation against 'lower' (lol) clubs...we need to fill midfield with at least 4 if not 5...
we had no threat today and to be frank i was far more enjoying Watfords honesty and simplicity...it wasnt rocket science but what they did worked...
Football isn't complicated and it isn't rocket science...watford play to their strengths which is why they are 4 points above us...
Jurgen has adopted a bunch of lightweight players who should not be in the same team together...they are luxuries...and one or two can be afforded but not 6 or so...
moreno needs to learn to cross better, thought clyne did ok, sakho slipped cos it was pissing down and skrtel is a 30 year old who got overtaken by a player much younger than him (he should have pulled him down)
Can needs back up, lucas shouldn't even be in the position of trying to create, henderson will pop up occasionally but never be the midfield fulcrum that we need...
lallana scored 18 goals in the season before he came to us, he had no fear...now he wants an extra touch and so will never be the same player...
firmino can only play well with coutinho....a lightweight luxury and irrelevant already...
If we can sell coutinho to barca for 40 plus then all well and good...he plays occasionally but is never consistent...no offence to the man,,,but smiling after missing a sitter shows no hunger at all...

All is not lost, we need to control the game, midfield essential, IBE i would say is essential,...why it took until the 74th minute to change things around was tbh a little worrying...play 4/5 there, work tirelessly and protect the back 4 and we'll be ok...

in January i think we need to buy some experience and add it to the squad...lads who have seen it all and won't panic...then in the summer sack off the lighweights and buy some serious additions...

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 14, 2015, 09:28:43 AM »
We might as well not have had a goalkeeper yesterday for all the use Mignolet was.
First priority is a goalie, which in turn will make the defence calmer, and that will ripple through the entire team.
Mignolet's time is up.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 12, 2015, 05:35:28 PM »
Interesting little stat for the newcastle game...we gave the ball away 124 times...which is the highest misplaced passes of any premier team in the last 5 years.
The midfield was dire that day, with Allen and Milner major culprits.
There's no point getting all doom and gloom because of the Newcastle and Sion results. Klopp has worked wonders already but can only so much with the players at hand. Allen is no Can and Milner blows hot and cold. Benteke also looks out of sorts.
I would be amazed if we see those 3 used in midfield again.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 06, 2015, 07:31:32 PM »
Klopp, however, will never start a player who isn't 100 % fit. That's why we'll see weak line ups like this one many times this season. But when he actually get a chance to shape the squad with players of his chosing this principle will have a very positive effect on the squad-development if you Catch my drift?


Gotcha...

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 06, 2015, 06:53:04 PM »
Interesting quote from Football 365...

'Benteke has now started 10 games in all competitions this season, with Liverpool scoring just eight goals in those games, and Benteke finding the net twice in that timeframe. In the 12 games Benteke has not started, Liverpool have scored 24 goals. Benteke is scoring at a rate of a goal every 202 minutes in all competitions this season; Sturridge’s record is a goal every 87.25 minutes.'

Benteke was very weak as was Firmino.
Sorry Martin, but i still think the lineup was weak ass...we lost it in midfield and without Can we should have played a 4 in midfield system...all three midfielders were making mistakes and doing bugger all in supplying up front...

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