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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 06, 2015, 06:27:35 PM »
Didnt like the line up at the start...and as i said i didnt think it was going to be a cake walk...some of my fellow supporters were talking about 10-0 and we set out our stall like we just needed to turn up and win..
Big lesson for Klopp...Allen and Benteke were awful..
Henderson, Sturridge and Lallana were needed...
No easy games in this league and each need to be taken seriously...
Fermino obviously can't play without Coutinho...
Ibe was our best player today...and was taken off?
Fair play to Newcastle. They wanted it more.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: December 06, 2015, 09:21:27 AM »
Excellent day yesterday with Citeh and Chelski losing and manure and spurs drawing! The hunt is on for 4th and so i don't care if its a 1-0 win to us against Newcastle...3 points are essential to make those above nervous...
City were dire, Chelsea must be out of the hunt now for top 4. Leicester continue to surprise (as do watford), manure will get more and more nervous, spurs are playing well and arsenal will always drop points.
Game on!

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: November 22, 2015, 09:42:44 AM »
We were pretty awesome yesterday. Full credit to Klopp for having the guts to leave Sturridge and Benteke on the bench. Firmino and Coutinho worked wonders.
Leaving both strikers on the bench will also make them think a bit. That they're no longer guaranteed a starting place.
With a few quality additions like Lewandoski and Reus we'd slaughter a lot of teams. Can but dream, but at least i'm dreaming again.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: November 20, 2015, 06:25:47 PM »
I can't see Sturridge starting tomorrow...but coming on for the last 20 mins against tired legs might work a treat. I'm looking forward to the game and as i think kompany is out then we might create some chances. Aguero will be playing so skrtel and lovren better be sharp.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: November 01, 2015, 12:41:25 PM »
Just recovered from celebrating and then dressing up as Jason from Firday the in at 6 am...awesome day...but i digress...
I loved how suddenly we didnt panic when chavski scored...i loved how we harrased the opposition like we did under benitez...i love how we brought on benteke and his fresh legs absolutely murdered cahill and terry...i loved how skrtel didnt react when he got kicked in the ribs by that nonce costa...i loved how we smiled and laughed and looked like the home team at stamford bridge...
Loving the klopp thang...
Far from perfect but a HUGE improvement over the Bodgers...

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: October 28, 2015, 06:54:29 AM »
Bizarre what Mourinho is doing...he's so arrogant though that he's probably doing it on purpose and hanging round for bets...

I saw the game on sunday and i thought we were pretty comfortable until we bloody scored..then it was back to panic stations and us looking nervous...Klopp will no doubt concentrate on this lack of belief that we can actually close down the game and keep it tight...our defence still looks weak when a ball is crossed in...

Can and Lucas have been reborn...but we're horribly lacking with our crocked strikers. Maybe the Bournemouth game will allow younger strikers to get a run out like Texeira etc...

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: October 21, 2015, 05:48:32 PM »
Just watched the Bodgers section of Being Liverpool where he told off Sterling as a 17 year old, the foundations of them falling out probably...
Being Liverpool, one of the finest ways to stroke cock and ego to the modern day footballer/manager...never to be repeated by us ever...
....truly horrifying.... for any psychologist wanting to pinpoint an egotist then look no further than the babblings of our Brendan...
I'd seen bits...but nothing could have prepared me from the sheer horror of the 6 episodes...

Jesus wept...thank god he's gone...

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Brendan Rodgers Sacked
« on: October 06, 2015, 11:48:52 AM »
An excellent weekend for the future of Liverpool FC. I was out on feria when i heard that Rodgers had gone and to be honest i don't care if its either Klopp or Ancelotti as both will be better than Rodgers. Both have weaknesses and positives but both will start to players in positions where they are most comfortable.
That hasn't been seen for a long time.
Good stuff.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: September 29, 2015, 02:06:41 PM »

Therefore unless something drastic happens Brendan will see out the season.

The Gordon should step down as well.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: September 14, 2015, 10:13:05 AM »
Now been revealed that Gerrard had to do some of the tapping up of players. Obviously Rodgers knew that he had no standing and so could blame someone else when targets weren't gained.

From Gerrard's new book...

I had an unofficial role at the club, trying to persuade some great players to join Liverpool. It was the same ritual every summer. The club would let me know which long-shot target they had in mind and then ask me to contact him. They thought that a request to consider moving to Liverpool would have more impact coming from me.

In 2013, the latest player in our sights was Willian, the Brazilian midfielder. I followed the usual routine when approaching a star player we wanted to sign. Instead of calling him directly I always sent a text. It seemed more respectful and allowed the player to read my message at a time when it suited him best. A cold call felt wrong.

I slipped into the groove with Willian. I said hello and hoped he didn’t mind me contacting him directly. I stressed how much I admired him as a player and then, having mentioned that I knew Liverpool were speaking to his agent, I used the standard line: ‘If you need to chat or ask any questions I’m available at any time.’

It was the opening move in a familiar game. The reply came in and the same old conversation started. Willian thanked me and he said the usual, along the lines of, ‘I’d love to play with you, Steven, blah-blah-blah, but there are other clubs who play in the Champions League I need to talk to as well.’ I knew Spurs and Chelsea were also very keen on Willian. So I answered him and said, of course, I understood. But I then went in with my sales pitch. ‘I think Liverpool would be a great move for you. The fans are amazing, the history is there and we’re building a good team. You could do something great here - and we’d love to have you.’

I meant it, too, because the club only asked for my help if it was with a player I rated. But I always tried to persuade with honesty and respect and never mentioned anything about the player’s financial situation or the contract he could expect from Liverpool. The next text from Willian was so obvious I could have written it for him even before I read it. He again said that it would be great to play in the same team as me but ‘I’m not sure Liverpool can give me the Champions League.’ He went to Chelsea.

It was a game of texting ping-pong that had only small differences each time. Occasionally a player would say his wife or girlfriend preferred the idea of living in London, Madrid or Paris. The clear message was that there were fancier shops and swankier restaurants in bigger cities than Liverpool. I knew then that the deal was dead.

Our target in 2014 was ridiculously optimistic. Brendan asked me to take a crack at trying to talk Toni Kroos into signing for Liverpool. He smiled when I said we’d be p*****g into the wind with this one. We both admired Kroos immensely. I knew Real Madrid were gearing up to make Bayern Munich an offer and so I felt a bit awkward when I texted Kroos. The German was on his way to winning the World Cup with his country and Real were the champions of Europe. But God loves a trier, and so I gave it a whirl.

Some of the best footballers in the world can also be the most respectful. Kroos didn’t make me feel like I was a total idiot. But, of course, he would soon sign for Real Madrid. We had a nice little exchange of texts and I said well done and good luck.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: September 14, 2015, 09:57:41 AM »
Article from football 365...

Saturday told us everything about you…

Forget all the psudeo-intellectual nonsense talk of philosophy, those 90 minutes on Saturday showed you don’t know what you’re doing, silly man. It’s time to go now, Brendan.

Come on, that’s enough now, Brendan. It’s stopped being funny.

There was a moment about 18 months ago when it was hard to tell if Brendan Rodgers was a genius or a clown, or possible a genius clown. He’s been a lot of fun for us, but now there’s something dreadful and crushing about watching him go about his job, endlessly dressing up ineptitude as intellectual philosophy.

Many managers get a period of luck in their career, a period when they can do no wrong. It’s usually not because they’re doing anything massively different, more often it’s because a couple of players hit good form, or you accidentally hit on a new formation and the luck goes your way for a bit. Brendan had his luck with Luis Suarez but managed to convince himself that it wasn’t luck, it was an expression of his own brilliance – a combination of exceptional analysis, man-management and deep thinking.

To talk about football in the way that Brendan Rodgers talks about football, you have to be successful, otherwise you look stupid. Rodgers’ inability to match his pseudo-intellectualising with results says one thing and one thing only: I am deluded and I don’t know what I’m doing. Okay, so that’s two things.

And it was obvious from the way Liverpool played at Old Trafford that fundamentally he doesn’t know what he’s doing, unless being awful is his aim. Daniel Storey masterfully highlighted all of the flaws in Liverpool’s play in 16 Conclusions – the shocking thing was that Rodgers couldn’t even see any of this before, during, or after the match. I genuinely believe he is more occupied with thinking up a metaphysical riddle to utter at the post-match conference, solely in order to look brainy to thick people and to himself.

Some managers know when they’re lost, they know when they’ve signed the wrong players, they know when their tactics are hopeless and wrong, but Rodgers doesn’t. He still thinks he’s bloody great. Maybe he thinks he’s creating a hybrid physical expression of mathematics and poetry. He is certainly prone to talking like a man who is divorced entirely from reality. It is as though everything he says has been generated by a piece of software as a satire on the way air-headed, white-toothed motivational speakers go on, dressing up simple things in long-winded ways, so as to make out there’s more wisdom to it. Brendan, nobody is impressed anymore.

Even when saying really basic things about a footballer, he makes it sound weird. Talking of playing Danny Ings he said: “He’s a threat to the goal.” Why doesn’t he just say he’s a goal threat? Or that he might score. Ings isn’t a threat to the goal – his threat is to score a goal. I know it’s not a big thing, but such embellishment is illustrative of how his mind works. “I’m not one who chops and changes the philosophy – that’s something inherent in you,” is more classic Rodgers nonsense. First, it’s not true, for all the reasons Daniel says in 16 conclusions, but read the sentence again – it doesn’t actually make any sense. It should read “I don’t chop and change my philosophy – that’s something inherent in me,” and even then, you might argue the last two words are superfluous.

His whole aim with such uncomfortable, clunky expressions is to aggrandise himself. He refers to ‘the philosophy’ as though it is a grand concept like Marxism or quantum physics. And by saying that not chopping and changing is some sort of inherent character trait is just obvious nonsense. How you decide your team will play football is not a trait you’re given at birth. And anyway, whatever your philosophy is and from wherever it derives, if it leads to performances like Saturdays, it’s manifestly the wrong bloody philosophy.

But it’s all so typical of the man. His whole Liverpool tenure has been defined by all of these ridiculous hostages to fortune. He’s the only man in football who manages to put one foot in a bucket whilst slipping on a banana skin and shooting himself in the other foot.

Being thoughtful and clever is good, but only if you ARE thoughtful and clever. If you’re not thoughtful and clever but have merely just convinced yourself that you are – because everyone else you know has the intellect of gravy – you just end up making a fool of yourself. You’d think he’d have realised this by now, but he hasn’t. And he hasn’t because he believes in it and doesn’t realise that what surely used to be a pseudo-intellectual affectation has now become an entire consciousness.

His failures are well documented and extensive but it boils down to this: Brendan, look at the team, look at who they are and how they play. That tells us everything about you. Saturday told us everything about you. You can’t dress it up as a philosophy and you’re making yourself look stupid by doing so.

I wish you were actually just talking rubbish in order to get the sack and a huge pay-off. But you’re not, are you? You believe in the nonsense.

Brendan, it’s over or, to put it in terms you might better understand, the project demands a more progressive, dynamic individual, vis-a-vis interpersonal and inspirational one-on-one motivational and organisational skills, on both a macro and a micro level…and because of playing Dejan Lovren too, you big divvy.

John Nicholson

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer transfer window 2015
« on: September 03, 2015, 01:34:36 PM »
It's really sickening you can feel we've entered the long and painful path that eventually will end up in Rodgers getting th sack. That means this season will be wasted, it means next season will be yet another season of transition. August 2017 seem so far away.

Perhaps Martin....but i have to remain an optimist despite what is before us. If we lose heavily at Old Toilet then i can't see how he could possibly continue.
If that happens and FSG still do nothing, then we are proper doomed.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: August 29, 2015, 08:51:50 PM »
in a field of his own.

Preferably a mine field.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: August 29, 2015, 06:08:44 PM »
'With a 63% effective possession rating all teams should win by at least 2 goals.' -Brendan Rodgers

Reality. Oh.

Can we sack him off now please?

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2015/16
« on: August 26, 2015, 06:48:51 PM »
agreed, Tes. 

Very few folk really understand football, or even take the time to try.

As you say, people like Lucas do unseen, but essential (and highly skilled) you say, he is a catalyst.

Lucas, for my money, should have been made vice-captain (admittedly Milner is a great lad too).  And Lucas should be the perfect mentor for the young Can to learn from.

I often played in front of defence, breaking things up.....and would have given my right arm to learn from masters like Lucas or Deiter Hamann.

And yet, Rodgers is happy to alienate and see the lad leave.  You cannot buy that type of experience, that such lads have.

Incredibly Dude, Bodgers has seen the light and turned down the Beskitas Lucas transfer. After watching Lucas carve up Arsenal on monday night he has decided on a u-turn. Maybe after the Stoke thrashing, Bodgers has been going to bed with books like 'lessons in humility' and 'how to create a balanced team'. It might slowly be sinking in.

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