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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: September 30, 2017, 11:47:10 AM »
Hey all,

Very frustrating stuff so far.

At the current rate we'll be conceding around 65-70 goals this season. We're too leaky at the back and not clinical enough up front and we have no midfielder with a defensive first mentality.

Tough game tomorrow but we should win and I hope Ox starts and Can is dropped.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« on: August 14, 2017, 07:56:34 PM »
With no further additions at best we'll finish 6th and at worst 8th or 9th.

We are light years behind both manc clubs and spurs in particular.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: August 14, 2017, 07:53:55 PM »
Don't worry haven't left, just been on holiday for a few weeks.

Depressed really. With this squad and especially this defence best we can hope for is 6th.

How can we not buy any freaking defenders?! Coutinho as well.............

IMO we'll sell Coutinho and have no incomings. Milner will be like a new signing in central midfield, Kent and Woodburn will replace Coutinho and other b.s. that will be fed to us.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: July 21, 2017, 12:26:29 AM »
I can't see the point in upping the Keita bid by just £4M to £70M, as seems to be a mooted possibility.

Surely we either go to at least £75M, or just try and preserve a relationship with Red Bull, and attempt to get first refusal for next Summer, and at the same time move on to another target so we don't miss out all together.

Likewise with Van Dijk. Do we make one big effort and then move on if not successful?

If not, we risk being arguably weaker than last season with Lucas having left, unless Sakho gets a reprieve. Even then, we could do with upgrading Klavan, if not Lovren.

I feel we'll put in one last bid for both............I think we stand a better chance of getting Van Dijk though.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: July 20, 2017, 05:42:27 PM »
Looks like we're getting Robertson from Hull for £8-10M as our new left back.

Maybe he's the Plan B and the Plan A has yet to be revealed, or maybe Klopp plans to utilise Milner alongside Robertson for this season and look to upgrade next Summer as he sees the spine of the team, midfield and at least one central defender as more pressing an issue.

What worries me with lowering the importance of the full back positions this Summer, is that one of the ways we can tighten up defensively is to stop the supply from wide areas into the box, as that's a key area where we struggle to defend. Having a quality left back that doesn't get caught out of position, who is able to avoid giving away cheap free kicks in wide areas, likewise cheap corners and understands the importance of covering his centre half in behind and around the back, would help tighten up our defence to a worthwhile degree.

I'm not saying Robertson can't be that. He may well push on in his development and prove to be capable of providing what we need, it just feels like some positions are trying to be fixed 'on the cheap' in comparison to other positions, even taking into account the cost differential between certain positions.

Milner will still be our No.1 left back with Robertson pushing him.

With Stewart going the other way for £8m it's basically a free transfer, so can't complain for a decent, youngish player who has proven to be a good and potential to be very good left back for hardly not outlay.

People who I speak to say he reminds them of Steve Finnan a little bit, can't say I've seen enough of Robertson to judge that comparison though.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: June 24, 2017, 03:59:25 PM »
We're not contemplating Mbappe.......it is all paper talk. We have no interest.

Clichy is no better than Milner and Milner isn't even a proper left back which shows you how badly I think Clichy is, so I don't think he'd be a good signing. But it is worrying we're not looking to sign a top class left back.

Jurgen has tracked Keita for a lot longer than one year. He is Jurgen's Number 1 target signing and wants him badly. However I rate our chances of signing him at around 20%.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: June 22, 2017, 06:00:02 PM »
Thanks for that. I had no idea I was thinking that.  ;D

The point you make about Salah 'cutting in' was more to do with my liking for Lemar, as was having no need to cover for the AFCON absence of two players, as we're hoping both Mane and AN Other would be integral parts of the team by the AFCON of 2019.

Salah is left footed, but has predominantly played on the right cutting in, which he is less likely to do if played on the left as you suggest, hence a left footer, who plays on the left - Lemar.

Mane's right footed, so for them to both cut in, they'd have to switch sides, which is more likely to suit Salah, than Mane. That issue doesn't arise with Lemar.

Kent may be off to Bournemouth, especially if their £6M offer is genuine, but I'd add Harry Wilson and Sheyi Ojo to Woodburn. Solanke's an interesting one. He could prove to be a real shrewd buy, and will possibly lessen the need for an outright striking replacement should Sturridge go.

It would be nice to think we'll add at least one wide player to help soften the absences of our two AFCON absentees (Lemar would only leave one replacement required), but I'll wait until I see more evidence before hoping that would be the case.

Salah's time at Chelsea is irrelevant. As was suggested at the time, it was more a case of Mourinho stopping us getting him, than Mourinho actually wanting him to be a part of the 1st team in the same way he would have been with us.
He was hardly likely to displace Hazard or Willian, or even Schurle in Mourinho's thinking.
On that basis his time at Chelsea is no indicator of what he might do for us.

It'll be interesting to see how he fits in alongside Mane and if there is a compromise required from either player in terms of their most effective position. 

If I'm honest I don't think we'd necessarily target another striker if we did sell Sturridge. I think by targetting goalscoring wide players, who can play centrally at times, Klopp seems to be moving away from reliance on strikers as the goal supplier.

So. Gomez. Does he stay or go out on loan?

And what is your grapevine telling you about another centre half? Shirley that has to be a priority, no matter what happens to Gomez.

We have another 3 transfer windows  to think about cover for AFCON. So either the likes of Ojo and Woodburn Step up during that time or we will get another wide player in. I don't think that because he is African that specifically shouldn't dissuade us from signing one - if he is of high quality and he is.

I get your point about Salah normally plays in Mane's position but I feel that the free movement of that front line i.e. your point about not needing another striker as they can go central, is an important one.

I do hope Gomez does stay because I want to see how a fully fit Gomez does here and he can also cover in the full back roles too. So I'd definitely give him an opportunity.

I don't know about any names but seeing at the trouble we had of wanting a centre back in Van Dijk I do think Jurgen will attempt to buy one whether it is Van Dijk or not and I certainly think we need one.

What troubles me more is the lack of noise of any left backs coming in. Moreno is 99% definitely leaving. We've rejected an £11m offer from Napoli as we want £15m. I don't know why but he has plenty of suitors including 3 teams in the PL!!

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: June 22, 2017, 05:47:49 PM »
A dilemma, indeed:

Mohamed Salah and the big dilemma Jurgen Klopp will need to solve at Liverpool


"Egyptian journalist Marwan Ahmed, who has followed Salah’s career closely, was adamant when he spoke to the ECHO about where Salah should play. “Right wing, that’s his best position," he said.

Despite being heavily left-footed, Salah prefers the right side to allow him to cut in and shoot off his stronger side. In his two seasons with Roma he has lined up on the left in just one game.

It's not really a dilemma though.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: June 20, 2017, 06:11:50 PM »
Salah is a superb signing. Stop thinking of the player you saw at Chelsea and think his numbers and performances in the last 18 months.

He is even faster than Mane - FASTER!!!!!!!!!

He will play on the left side of the attack cutting in with Mane cutting in from the other side and they can alternate sides too which would also surprise defences.

Unless we sell Sturridge we are not after another striker.

I too like Lemar but he'd cost a lot more than £25m. I also get your point that both would be going to AFCON but we'll likely get another wide player next summer and also have the likes of Kent, Woodburn, Solanke etc that could cover us.

Salah is/was Klopp's Number 2 signing this summer. Keita is his first but that ain't happening.

Shame Klopp's other targets in Keita and Van Dijk are off the table. With those 3 and a left back and Salah I'm certain we'd have won the league.

Now I have my doubts we'll reach top 4.  But Salah is an excellent signing never the less. 

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2016/17
« on: April 16, 2017, 05:15:29 PM »
Six points from Stoke and WBA........points in the bag rather than games in hand all day long.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: March 23, 2017, 06:27:53 PM »
Laughing at the news we're competing with Man Utd to sign Jose Gimenez.........like we have the ambition to get that type of proven top class player.

We'll offer him around 2/3rds of what man utd will offer and wonder what went wrong.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2016/17
« on: March 18, 2017, 10:20:33 PM »
Balanced teams in PL era:-

92 - 94 - Man Utd

97 - 98 - Arsenal

98 - 2002 - Man Utd

2000 - 2005 - Arsenal

2004 - 2008 - Chelsea

2007 - 2011 - Man Utd

2009 - 2010 - Chelsea

2013 - 2015 - Chelsea

2016 - 2017 - Chelsea

See the coincidences?

Non balanced teams:-

1992 - 1995 - Blackburn

1994 - 1998 - Liverpool

1992 - 1994 - Arsenal

1999 - 2004 - Liverpool

2004 - 2009 - Liverpool

2005 - 2017 - Arsenal

1999 - 2004 - Chelsea

2010 - 2014 - Man City

2013 - 2017 - Liverpool

2011 - 2017 - Man Utd

Spot the differences? Yes those teams won trophies but won it in the main due to individual talent and either through defensive nous or attacking flair not both. Or didn't win anything due to lacking one of the other.

So please stop the boll ocks that we were ever balanced under Rafa. If you think we were balanced then I suggest you read the definition of that it means.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2016/17
« on: March 18, 2017, 10:12:19 PM »
Another interesting, though obvious observation from Giles:

John Giles: Klopp and Guardiola wouldn't know how to put a basic defensive training drill together


Though maybe not as glamourous, and even seen as an inconvenience by some, a defence is as vital as an attack to a team's success. We are not Barcelona, and the PL, more than any other league is not La Liga.

One way or the other Klopp needs to sort that out. It cost us the title under Rodgers, and ultimately his job. It's why Evans' team, the best team going forward in the league at the time, were also 'barely rans'.

Yes because his Dortmund team was defensively frail...............He needs to be backed in the transfer market and he'll get what you are seeking. He brought in Matip who's been a very good signing and from August to December Milner at left back was solid. If had been given the left back he wanted then we'd have been more balanced. There is a reason he's not playing Moreno. His mistake was giving Mignolet another chance and Karius really needs another 12-18 months to really see how he develops.

But he needs backing in the transfer market. He can only teach old dogs so many tricks because no matter how much you try and polish a turd, at the end of the day a turd will always be a turd.

But I find it amusing certain people are already turning on him because trust me when I tell you this he can walk into any club in the world as manager tomorrow and I even said to Martin that when he arrived I was worried about his legacy because he can walk into any job in the world but he chose us. But as this club are so inept he is frankly our last hope of ever doing anything notably again otherwise we'll turn into Everton. I don't trust us and partly wished he went to the mancs or Barcelona or real or Bayern so his talent would match the success he'd have their. With us he can use all his talent in the world, but if we refuse to sign his No.1 target players then he can only do so much.

P.S. I also have to laugh at Dude saying we were ever balanced with Rafa as manager. We were totally negative team 'sh it on a stick football' was what it was called. If we were truly a balanced team from 2006 to 2009 we'd have won a league title. As the mancs were truly a balanced team then with defensive nous matched with attacking flair. We have defensive nous but no attacking flair - we only had Torres and Gerrard. Balanced my bottom.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Summer Transfer Window 2017
« on: March 18, 2017, 09:58:57 PM »
I'd rather keep Can as back up then sell him and have to buy 2 midfielders in the summer. As we haven't funds for transfers and wages for buying to midfielders this summer.

But I do agree he has been poor. But he and Milner are adequate back ups for Henderson, Lallana, Wijnaldum and another. So I'd give him next season and if not improvement sell him in 2018.

For me Can isn't a DM he is a CM and in that role isn't as good as the aforementioned 3, but as a back up is good enough. So I'd rather spend the cash on one midfielder than split it on two midfielders.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2016/17
« on: March 13, 2017, 10:05:56 PM »
for long parts of the game, Burnley looked like the home team.

Liverpool, at home, despite paying five times the annual wage bill of Burnley (166 million to 33 million), were resorting to winding the clock down, by taking the ball to corners during the final ten minutes.

Indeed Burnley could/should have equalised at the death, when our dozy defender was caught ball-watching.

I would lose no sleep, if Klopp left in the summer.

Simply nowhere near good enough.

You on drugs? Klopp is our only hope of achieving something of real significance. He needs to be backed in the transfer market and get his No.1 target players no matter the fee or wage.

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