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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: An interesting Debate
« on: October 02, 2013, 02:28:13 PM »
I'm not sure scrutinizing this years Carling Cup exit will provide too many answers to anything Ed. For me it was a one off cup game against United at Old Trafford. The result was always going to be close either way. We took the competition seriously by sending out a full strength team. We played well and were unlucky to lose 1 nil.

I agree the Carling Cup needs to be treated with respect. When possible I think it can be used as a good way to give new or younger players first team experience but with big games the priority needs to be on the result.

I think the previous round against Notts County shows just how seriously we took the competition. We fielded an almost full strength team although we fell to piece and needed extra time to win.

In seasons where Champions League qualification has been achieved I think its fair to field further weakened teams but when it comes to playing just domestic football in a season the league cups importance is definitely heightened.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 30, 2013, 11:09:43 PM »

Cheers Ed.

Going by that piece Sakho looked solid. It may be just his style but his passing looks shaky. He looks susceptible to making a mistake when in possession. Only time will tell. There is big hope for him. I suppose what worries me is when a player comes with a big reputation and a relatively big price tag and they havent been playing for their previous team you just worry that there is an underlying reason.

Thats why I'm not a Skrtel fan. He can be excellent but he generally makes potentially goal conceding mistakes every couple of matches. The one season he eradicated them he finished as our player of the season. Hes not the strongest in the air either. Anyway my point is we need a greater level of consistency from Sakho than we have from Skrtel.

All that said I recall Vidic didnt have a great start to his United career but after about 9 month was immense. Hopefully Sakho is more Vidic than Skrtel.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 29, 2013, 11:01:25 PM »
Wasnt able to catch todays game. Much needed 3 points especially considering the results over the weekend. If we are to have any chance of putting up a fight for a top 4 place we have to take advantage of the other top sides slipping up.

How was Sakho? I havent been impressed as of yet but obviously its very early days. So far for me hes looked unpredictable and thats the last thing you need from a centre back.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 23, 2013, 12:35:29 AM »
Every game I've seen Aspas in there's been a moment where he's done something which offers some sort of promise, therefore I'm hopeful we'll see something more once he's got used to the pace and the more physical aspect. I've certainly got more hope for him than I have for Borini.
I wonder what his best position is and if he's going to get to play in it. That may be the thing that proves a deciding factor as to whether he settles long term or not.

Agreed Tes. A goal or two could change everything for Aspas. He was poor on Saturday but he was also probably treated like a bit of a scapegoat by being subbed at half time. It could have easily been 6 other players but he just seems to be the easy one to take off.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 23, 2013, 12:31:19 AM »

Just as there was no reason to gett carried away with the opening three wins, there's no reason to resort to negativity and anti-Rodgers rants after this poor result. It remains a fact that with all players available we're deffo in it with a shout, 3-4 injuries and we're less so. I have no doubt in my mind that with Johnson, Enrique, Coutinho and Suarez we would've stood on 15 Points today.

Besides having a thing squad I would say our center midfield is becoming the main problem for us with non of Lucas, Henderson and even Gerrard looking even remotely close to being good enough for enginge a 4th spot. Lucas may well pass 43 out of 45 sideways/backwards balls spot on but he NEVER EVER offers leadership in his role as holding midfielder. I won't rule out Gerrard but Lucas and Henderson for me raises big questions of whether we can reach 70 points this season.

I dont think theres been any anti Rodgers rants as such after yesterday Martin. I'm willing to give Rodgers a fair crack of the whip. For me hes doing a very good job at the club. But just like hes deserves acknowledgement when things are working I think we cant ignore scenarios when he gets it wrong too. For me yesterday was one of those days and I feel his defensive line up cost us and allowed Southampton the chance to grow into the game.

I do think 70 points is achievable. We still have our weak spots, we are all agreed that middle of the park looks particularly weak. It could be time to start seeing whether Allen can cut it or not. There are big questions over Henderson Gerard and to some degree Lucas although I think hes still been the best of the three. For me Rodgers needs to go back to what he knows and whats been working. Toure has to start central. It could be time to give Stevie a wake up call too. Nobody should be un droppable because at times we look like we are playing with 10 hes contributing so little.

I'm very optimistic and probably just hopeful too that yesterday was nothing more than once off bad decision making from the gaffer and a bad day at the office for the players. You will hear talk of a reaction now, with the United game seen as a perfect opportunity. But for me the reaction needs to be winning the next 3 league games to prove we do mean business and this start wasnt down to luck and a favorable fixture list.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 23, 2013, 12:02:57 AM »
Today from what I say in the highlights it was simply a tactic of the team pressing
us high up the pitch, which seemed to totally unnerve us.

Swansea came at us in the centre of the park and encroached into our half with
their own decent passing game & Southampton had a variation on that i.e. we don't
need the passing bit if we just apply the pressure at the jugular with simple energy.

So it goes back to the much debated question of only plan A: How brittle is it? Have
so-called lesser teams sussed it? Two different sets of tactics home and away in space
of a week have proven very effective against us.

& other teams are watching...

It's not the counter-attack stuff & big striker thing which used catch us out last season.

It's actually the pluckiness of the opposition to have a go, a belief they seem to have in
the last two games which would have me wondering...

Southampton were all over us like a rash from our kick out alright. I think the fact that our defense was so unfamiliar probably added to the sense of uncertainty. I dont necessarily think we've being found out but its definitely something that needs to be addressed.

As for our plan A, at the moment it just doesnt look like its being incorporated effectively yet this season. We had only managed to play well in patches up to yesterday without showing the type of football we watched in the second half of last season. I assumed there would be a marked improvement in performance starting yesterday but such hope went out the window with the line up. It will be interesting to see how we respond over the next five games in the league. They could define how our season will take shape. If we can pull things together and start a new run of wins yesterday will prove to be a blip. Dropping more points in the same fashion as yesterday could see us struggle. We cant afford to start playing catch up this early.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2014
« on: September 22, 2013, 01:08:46 AM »
I know it's only short term, but what about Defoe on loan in January. I know he isn't playing in the PL, but has 4 goals in the EL already.

It would be a better option off the bench than we have at the moment.

I realise we should be aiming higher, but 'needs must' and all that.

Not a hope Tes, Levy wouldnt do anything to potentially strengthen our cause. I'm not sure I'd want Defoe. On loan for the season fair enough but we can definitely spend our limited budget better elsewhere.

Our striking options are a worry but I'm more worried by the centre of the park. There is nobody in there playing  because they thoroughly deserve it. Lucas is okay but Gerrard and Henderson arent offering much right now. Hendos got an engine but not a whole lot else. I'm probably being tough on Gerrard but at this point in time I dont see what hes contributing to the team. The fact that Joe Allen cant get near that midfield is speaking volumes about how Rodgers rates him now.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 22, 2013, 12:55:19 AM »
You see I never bought into results we got in the back end of last season, when the
pressure was off, & was surprised to see the gaffer continually refer to those results
this season. What I see is an appalling home result (my understanding is that
the performance was also appalling) coming on the back of a shocking last 30
minutes against Swansea - where neither the manager or the players could turn it around.

Maybe Swansea and Southampton are the best teams in the division but I'd have been
very angry today in the post match, most particularly because the team started the day
with the opportunity to hold onto their position in the league, with a draw or win in a home
game and finished the day ceding the position (it's not particularly relevant that it was the
top spot).

Makes a mockery of notions of maturity, mental toughness and resilience!

I dont necessarily think it was one of those days. I dont think we have performed well yet this season at all. However we have shown an ability to get results while playing badly and I know from the second half of last season we are capable of playing well. So if we can pick up points doing both this season hopefully we can challenge for fourth.

I havent seen the Rodgers interview yet and I think hes doing a good job but I hold him completely accountable today and he should probably take some of the blame for Monday night also. I know Agger got injured, as did Toure for the United game but we had seen enough in the first 3 games to know the defence doesnt need tinkering especially with new buys being played for the sake of being played. Toure shouldve started central either beside Agger, Sakho or Skrtel. Enrique shouldve started left and either Kelly or Wisdom right. When I saw the team lineup I moaned I'm sure like every other Liverpool fan. It just looked as if he was playing all four centre backs because he didnt want to drop any of them.

I'm not sure what type of football we are trying to play this season because the sharp quick pass and move seems to have broken down aswell. Players arent showing for each other enough, theres no sustained team pressurising of the opposition like there has been in the past and the team lacks fluidity. 

Today is a reality check. I genuinely think Rodgers is building something worthwhile at the club but he needs to take the courageous decisions of putting out a team for the right reasons because that starting back four certainly didnt seems to be picked for the right reasons today and for me the defence cost us for the second game running.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 22, 2013, 12:29:45 AM »
Juan, how long have we been saying that? It seems to be for a very long time.

This is where the idea of buying two players for £15M rather than one for £16M seems to have been our undoing for too long. Concentrate on quality and fill in the quantity with young players if need be. It gives a more stable team, fewer new players to integrate and we may just get a hero rise up from one of the young lads.
Despite the more obvious problems, I'm convinced that this is why Arsenal always find themselves in the Top Four come the end of the season, as they have a stable core line up and less new faces to integrate.

In fairness thats generally the approach we are trying to take now. Its not necessarily about how much we are willing to spend but we are now trying to buy a certain type of player, technically capable players. It looks like it might take Aspas a while to show if hes capable or not but its far too early for us to write him or any of the other new players off.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 22, 2013, 12:26:16 AM »
The only positive to come out of that shambles is that we lost by only one goal.


Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 21, 2013, 05:45:00 PM »
I agree with a lot Juan. I do feel that Skrtel was back to his normal self after two above par performances. His acting that led up to the corner the won the game from was nothing short of criminal. I hope he doesn't feature anytime soon again.

I would also agree the line-up was spurious to say the least. At the same time it's evident Aspas, Henderson and Lucas just aren't good enough.

Worst of all tho was the lack of urgency given our incredible "confidence". On the other hand, if the ref would've awarded us that peno it probably would've ended differently.

Yeah theres no doubt Skrtel is capable of putting in a big performance but his problem has always been consistency and concentration. Hes too prone to errors. Sakho Ive no doubt will prove a great acquisition but there has been no need to put him in straight away with the form Toures been in. Before Monday we had 3 clean sheets but even with Aggers injury we changed it up too much and we have paid the price.

Aspas deserves his chance but again I'm not sure what hes done to warrant a starting place considering he was ear marked as a squad signing and not necessarily a first teamer. Saying that with Coutihno out it was probably fair he got a run today but maybe Rodgers needs to introduce him slowly from the bench until hes up to the pace of the Premier league. So far hes been miles off being good enough.

Henderson has a good engine but he lacks from a technical perspective.  Lucas does a job. For me he warrants a place more than Gerrard at the moment.

Today was probably inevitable because all of our wins before today have been achieved sluggishly and not getting out of first gear. 

People need to step up in Coutihnos absence.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 21, 2013, 05:17:21 PM »
Sorry folks but I have this very very bad feeling about So'ton at home this afternoon. Injuries been hard on us + we seem to struggle to keep our game together for a full 90. 1-2 I predict.

I wasnt feeling comfortable myself after seeing the team sheet. Today though wasnt about injuries. Simply Rodgers got it wrong. Starting with 4 centre backs was an awful call and he has to take the blame.

We have been on this run spanning from the end of last season, our defense has been solid yet we are adamant to just give the new players their place without making them work for it. Moses I dont mind so much hes done in the PL before now. Toure has been rock solid too. But Aspas and Sakho should be made work for their start.

Today it just seemed like he didnt want to drop any of our centre backs so instead he decided to play them all even if it was square pegs in round holes etc etc. Going forward he has to man up and do whats best for the team. For me thats Toure and Agger if they are fit while playing fullbacks in the full back positions.

Still not such a bad start to the season. Suarez to come back is massive. I am worried about our centre midfield though. I'm not sure Gerrard has the ability to take a game by the scruff of its neck anymore.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Lest we forget Joe Fagan
« on: September 20, 2013, 01:26:38 PM »
Cheers Ed good read.

Hes another that if he had managed a certain Manchester club he would've probably been Sir Joe.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 18, 2013, 11:40:43 PM »
There are several posts in the Summer transfer thread where we stated we needed cover for the Lucas/Gerrard partnership. Gerrard can't play ever game and the internationals.

Our squad is still thin in certain areas and injuries will stretch us thinner.

Yet to see anything of Allen this season either. I dont think Rodgers trusts him. We will have to see how Gerrard will fare playing one game a week. Talk of a possible Alonso return in January. Id take it if he proved his fitness and the price was right. We have to be looking at that position long term though.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: 2013-2014 Season
« on: September 18, 2013, 11:35:58 PM »
Talking of Agger and gym injuries:

Haha, two torn hamstrings and possibly some paralysis.

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