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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Albert Riera done deal
« on: September 01, 2008, 04:22:54 PM »
The BBC are reporting that Steve Finnan has signed for Espanyol. Presumably part of the deal to bring Riera to Anfield.

Sorry to see him go. Quality RB who served us well. Good luck in Spain Steve!  :D

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Albert Riera done deal
« on: September 01, 2008, 03:28:17 PM »
have faith, Rick is on the job as-we-speak.



 ;D Oh well, that's another deal b*gg*red!  :'(

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Albert Riera done deal
« on: September 01, 2008, 03:08:20 PM »
But why would they delay any announcement if the price has been agreed and he's passed the medical? Personal terms? No, they're done as part of the deal aren't they?

And surely he wouldn't take a medical unless he's agreed PTs.  :(

I'm sure you're right wittsy but the delay seems strange.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Albert Riera done deal
« on: September 01, 2008, 02:37:14 PM »
I'm getting a bad feeling about the Riera deal. If he passed a medical last Thursday and a fee of £8M has been agreed why has the club not announced anything yet?

Is this a case of them not being prepared to release funds until Pennant is sold or a deal done? If we fail to sign a wide left player we will really struggle. Teams know how to play against our one-dimensional style.

If we fail to land Riera in time Rafa's blood will boil!  :o

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Villa v Liverpool
« on: August 31, 2008, 06:25:12 PM »
We play narrow because we have no-one capable of running down the wings and dribbling past a defender.

That performance was poor, defence excepted. Here was a chance for someone to step up and take the initiative with Gerrard out. Mash was okay but where was Alonso? With his passing abilities he should be bossing things. All I saw him do was a long range shot in the first half. Torres going off should have been the signal for Babel to come on and play 2 up front with Keane.

Lucas was very ineffectual and nGog was our only striker after Keane went off. I'm beginning to think that we're not progressing with Rafa. He spots good players but they don't improve with us. Yes, we have a great defence but the midfield is incapable of supplying decent balls to two decent forwards.

Not to have a single shot on target against a team that shipped 3 against Stoke last week was unacceptable. This isn't the first bad performance. They've all been bad this season. We've just got lucky a couple of times.

When are we going to start playing high tempo football? Everytime someone gets the ball they're stood still. You'll never see that at Utd or Arsenal. Rafa talks about it but it hardly ever happens.  :(

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Was Rafa disrespectful to Capello?
« on: August 30, 2008, 03:05:21 PM »
I'm not anti english.  I'm pro Liverpool.  I would have exactly the same opinion on Robbie Keane and Trapatoni.  Like I said, too many Adrian Durhams in here always taking the negative side for arguments sake.  Looks like your glass is always half empty mate

With comments like not giving a stuff about the England manager it comes across as that. I'll support Man U players when they play for England. Clearly you have no love of your national team. Pity.  :(

Haven't got a clue who Adrian Durham is.  ::) Rather than a half-empty person I see myself as a realist. Not sure how that fits in with a discussion about a person's judgement.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Was Rafa disrespectful to Capello?
« on: August 30, 2008, 02:59:54 PM »
Yes you are correct really, they could have had some form of communication with at least someone in the England set up. Funny thing is on the LFC web site Rafa claims he had a good talk with the England manager and all went well, just makes  you think if this is all hype in the press or Rafa covering his bottom alittle  :)

Rafa said he had a "positive" chat with Capello. Make what you wish of that word.  :D

Just remember Wales did make a touramnent once, a looooong time ago so you never know it could happen again.

I googled it! 1958!  :(

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Was Rafa disrespectful to Capello?
« on: August 30, 2008, 01:26:16 PM »
yes, like you, I was thinking yesterday that Capello should have been made aware of the issue.

in the last friendly against the Czechs, he may well have tried different personnel and tactics, if he'd known captain marvel was not gonna be available for the opening qualifiers.


Precisely why Capello should have been told. It gives him time to formulate a different plan.

And to Wittsy I don't disagree with your views about LFC pay his wages so call the shots. I don't think Capello would have argued about the need for Gerrard to have the op but he will feel justifiably annoyed that Rafa didn't inform him personally rather than hearing about it from others. That's not the Liverpool way and I'm a bit surprised at Rafa as I've always had the highest respect for him.

Pity Wales didn't have a few more quality players to help Giggs (and Rush before him) make it to at least one World Cup.  :(

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Was Rafa disrespectful to Capello?
« on: August 30, 2008, 01:04:44 PM »
who gives a flying fiddler's feck about Capello.  he is a Liverpool player.  Maybe we should have sent him for an operation during Sunderland and Middlesborough and Liege.  Then he could have been fit for your bloody England team. 

Same crap on talksport too the other day.  This site is full of Adrian Durhams.

Isn't there an England website where this nonsense has a home.

Frosty by name and frosty by nature eh?  :o Firstly I see you're based in Ireland so I'm guessing you're not an Englishman.  ::) But whatever your opinion on England there is a correct way for these things to be handled and in this case I don't think it was.

AS for whether it shoud be discussed here - why not? Gerrard is English and this is an English-based forum. Perhaps you should visit an Irish LFC website and post your anti-England views there!  :(

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Was Rafa disrespectful to Capello?
« on: August 30, 2008, 11:29:34 AM »
The Telegraph is reporting today that Rafa told Capello yesterday that club came before country as far as the timing of Gerrard's op was concerned. As a Spaniard he has no interest in the England team other than hoping that players return to the club uninjured. That's the downside of having a non-English manager. Ferguson has the same attitude with his Utd players. I don't like it but I accept that's the price you pay for having a top foreign manager. Logically it made sense from a club perspective for Gerrard to have the op this week.

But I think he was disrespectful to Capello by not speaking to him before the op and letting him know the situation. Apparently Capello only found out through the England team doctor. That is not the right way of doing things and I think it doesn't reflect well on either Rafa or Liverpool FC.

Do you agree?

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It's an interesting angle you take ASI. They need to create the impression that the value of the investment has risen before selling. It wouldn't surprise me if Hicks tries all he can to get a loan, any loan to start work on the stadium. He is a stubborn bounder, that we know already, really he should just do the honourable thing and sell up.

Without knowing all the facts it is difficult to know what their options are but I had a bash at it with my limited knowledge. If I remember correctly they have already been offered a big profit by DIC but at the time H&G weren't speaking to one another. But now that relations have thawed maybe any offer would be considered more seriously?

I don't see the club being worth any more than a year ago. Same infrastructure, mostly the same players and maybe a little less money in the bank. With no trophies or any new Far-East TV deal the club is not worth any more than in 2007.

I know it looks bad but it could be so much worse. Imagine if work had started, the basic structure was build and then the credit crunch had kicked in leaving the club with no additional funds to complete the build. Now that would be a horror story. At least as things stand if DIC bought them out and decided on a mega-stadium it would be feasible.

This delay must be costing them money. Don't know how much. They want to make money and they can't. They're not stupid and will be weighing up their options. An offer from DIC can't be ruled out and if it was generous enough it would make it very difficult for H&G to refuse.

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I'm trying to put myself in H&G's position and imagine what I would do next.

I want my investment to make money but until the stadium is built I can't. I can't find anyone to loan me the money and I'm not prepared to put my own in.

All the current income is taken up paying wages,  funding player purchases, interest payments and general expenses. The club is probably making a very small profit - not what I imagined it could make.

Unless I get a loan from a dodgy source (huge interest payments) the stadium isn't going to get built. The fans don't like me nor does my co-owner. My relationship with the CE is shaky to say the least.

I don't see any way out in the short to medium term. But then along comes a saviour who offers to buy me out (giving me a huge profit on my investment) and I can forget all the crap aimed at me from the fans and concentrate on my true love - Rounders or whatever it's called in the US.

The only sensible course of action seems as plain as the nose on Hick's face. I'm sure Gillett wouldn't turn down the chance to make a handsome profit. So why in the name of God do they stay? If I was DIC I'd be in like a shot with an offer this weekend. There's never been a better time to buy out these two hated figures.

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The Times is reporting that the anticipated start of the stadium build will not go ahead due to ... guess what! H&G can't raise the money!  :o

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article4629692.ece

Surely it's only a matter of time before they have to sell up?

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Liverpool v Middlesborough
« on: August 28, 2008, 10:04:09 PM »
What baffles me is if everyone can see we need more width and have done for quite a while why can't Rafa?

He probably can Skippy but there's probably a lack of choices. As soon as we show some interest in Englishmen the price goes sky high. Milner would have been my preferred choice over Riera but he would be expensive. Fingers crossed young Albert gets used to the pace of our footie and starts pumping in some quality crosses. That's when I think we'll see goals from Torres and Keane.  :)

Just caught the end of the Villa game and they didn't look that clever. 3 points on Sunday is not looking too unrealistic.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Liverpool v Middlesborough
« on: August 28, 2008, 03:24:16 PM »
Lack of width is clearly one reason we are struggling to score goals. Although some say we're not playing well we've only conceded 1 goal in 4 games.

When Babel delivered that cross it resulted in a goal albeit due to a defender's mistake.

Riera on the left and Pennant on the right should be more effective than everything through the middle. But Rafa won't drop Kuyt (and rightly so) so lack of width on the right remains a problem.

Does Rafa have the funds for a right winger if we can offload Pennant and who's in the frame?

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