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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on March 12, 2018, 01:14:36 PM »
Tactically frustrating, yet again. Trent, young as he is, has been found wanting, out of position, on numerous times this season, and yet he still keeps making the same mistakes. What work is being done on the training ground to eliminate these mistakes?

Why were we set up the way we were to deal with Lukaku? Either we play Van Dijk up against him, and have Matip as the 'spare man', or if we're going to leave Van Dijk spare, then Klavan has to have the job of man marking Lukaku, as he out of the three (him, Lovren and Matip) is less likely to get man handled in the way Lovren was, and does get.

We were far too open first half and especially for the goals. Simple long balls, knock-ons etc. Why are we still struggling with them? When Lukaku drops deeper for a flick on, if we have Can (the strongest in the air of the midfielders) drop in in front of Lukaku, with Lovren in behind, it makes it harder for Lukaku to have a clear sight of the flight of balls knocked forward in the air.

With the second goal, Trent has to stay out wide on his man, with Can dropping into the space that Trent had got sucked into. Trent needs to show Rashford down the outside, rather than let him cut in, and if he fails to do that, then Can is there in the space that either Rashford will make for, or if he lays the ball off inside, that space is the area the recipient of the lay off will make for.

Whilst it would have been nice to win, we needed to make sure that the Mancs didn't extend their points lead over us. That was the prime objective on Saturday.

Mourinho understands that sometimes you have to stiffle the game, sometimes settling for avoiding defeat, as part of the bigger picture, and how any individual game fits into it. Yet again, a Mourinho team playing against us, looks far better drilled, more practised, more accomplished, and we look naive.

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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on March 05, 2018, 12:10:34 AM »
The tie is already finished. We should rest the front 3 for the mancs the following weekend.

I agree we need to remain professional but it would be foolish imo to start our best XI.

Indeed top 4 is still far from guaranteed so we need to keep the momentum going. Everyone is fit and focused though so I am confident.

I think this weekend could be huge if we beat newcastle and city beat chelsea then the gap will be 7 points. Meaning there needs to be a 3 game swing for Chelsea to overcome us (2 if they beat us 2nd last game of the season). But if Rafa does us a job on us and Chelsea nick a result then it could stay a 4 or even just 1 point gap, meaning they only need a one game swing and they have us at the bridge.

Personally I think us and spurs will join both manc clubs in the top 4. I think we are the better team than Chelsea and will probably finish 3rd or 4th.

Both the West Ham game and the Newcastle one have shown a new maturity to the side. Firstly, with West Ham, we didn't let the great result against Porto affect us like the Swansea and WBA games after we beat City, and against Newcastle, we remained patient, moved the ball swiftly and got a result against a team that came to defend and be hard to break down.

Hats off to Karius. He's showed a marked improvement recently. Long may it continue.

I agree with your Top Four, unless one of us 3 (excluding City) suddenly implode, and an equally sized change happens at Chelsea.

The Manc game is bigger than usual. Steal a win, and 2nd is in our own hands.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Edward224 on March 02, 2018, 07:29:05 PM »
The tie is already finished. We should rest the front 3 for the mancs the following weekend.

I agree we need to remain professional but it would be foolish imo to start our best XI.

Indeed top 4 is still far from guaranteed so we need to keep the momentum going. Everyone is fit and focused though so I am confident.

I think this weekend could be huge if we beat newcastle and city beat chelsea then the gap will be 7 points. Meaning there needs to be a 3 game swing for Chelsea to overcome us (2 if they beat us 2nd last game of the season). But if Rafa does us a job on us and Chelsea nick a result then it could stay a 4 or even just 1 point gap, meaning they only need a one game swing and they have us at the bridge.

Personally I think us and spurs will join both manc clubs in the top 4. I think we are the better team than Chelsea and will probably finish 3rd or 4th.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on February 26, 2018, 07:45:55 PM »
Considering the carnage in the aftermath of the City win, the professional performance against West Ham, after the hype fuelling win in Porto, hopefully shows a new maturity amongst the squad.

The Porto win was great but we have to ensure we finish the tie properly (no careless 3-3s etc), and then make it count against who ever we draw next.

This is where we seem to have constantly fallen down over the last few years, by not making a notable result the beginning of sustained progress.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on February 26, 2018, 07:39:52 PM »
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Edward224 on February 25, 2018, 05:28:34 PM »
clueless

I'd like to see Klopp gone in the summer - and a proper manager brought in.

Behave...........
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on February 18, 2018, 01:52:31 PM »
I think we can go far in Europe.   

Especially if Porto are our opposition.  ;D

A good win, but they did walk through our midfield a little too easy early on.

Great to see Mane back amongst the goals.

I just hope our players don't react to this win like they did to the Man City one.
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by the dude abides on February 05, 2018, 03:03:35 PM »
I think we can go far in Europe.   Against top teams, it's a right old scrap....and anybodys' game.

Indeed, if the football authorities can be convinced to change games to last only 45 minutes - and/or allow more substitutes to be used, we can win everything every year.   8)

We bossed the first half - and Spurs bossed the second.  Same old story, we ran out of puff.

Really disappointed about the diving.  One of their lads got booked.  And the two penalties given, were not only offside, but both were simulations.  IMHO

The linesman and ref had poor games.   I thought we were lucky to even be given a kick-off.  First half, some of their tackles were crazy....but not a card in sight.  Poor day at the office for the officials.




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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on February 04, 2018, 10:52:05 PM »
Another draw that feels like a defeat, especially after twice being ahead.

That's both North London rivals for the top four that we should have put some more daylight between.

The flip side (hopefully) being only 2 points ahead of Spurs (and not the 5 we could have been after today), and therefore be able to be overtaken with just one slip, is that minds will remain focused.

I think the City win showed how this squad can lose focus and concentration, and now we're out of the FA Cup, they need to do everything possible to get second. The FA Cup and top four would have been reasonable, all things considered, but now fourth, or even third, isn't good enough with no trophy likely to arrive at Anfield again this season - does anyone honestly think we can win the European Cup? 
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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by the dude abides on February 03, 2018, 09:58:46 AM »
It was either last Summer or this Summer to let Coutinho go. To let him go mid-season without having players lined up to replace his effect was sheer stupidity.

looked at playing Salah and Mane as the two attackers (free to roam all across the front line, not just play as more conventional strikers/forwards, and then used Bobby in behind as a creator who would play both in behind Mane and Salah, but also go beyond into a more traditional central striker's position, giving us maximum fluidity

agreed re timing of Coutinho's move.   Clearly he must have been very pizzed to not have got the move last summer - and it was close to downing tools time IMHO  That's what it feels like from the outside looking on.

Re Salah and Mane as our two strikers.  I have been saying the same here since the start of the season - I felt last year, that Mane could be developed into a great striker (just needs more confidence).  And when I saw Salah this season, I felt Mane and Salah could be a modern Toshack/Keegan partnership. 

To me, as much as I love him, Bobby Firmino is not your typical english striker. 


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