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Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on January 16, 2018, 12:26:09 PM »
How does Karius get to be declared no1 after the City performance?

Mignolet hasn't been consistently poor enough, yes there was there Xhaka shot, and Karius obviously much better when he's played, for there to be a change in the goalkeeping situation.

If for some reason (other than the obvious one of which keeper was signed by which manager) Klopp was thinking of making Karius no1 (because of Mignolet's error against Arsenal), then surely the City game is a huge red flag.

I'd much prefer to see Danny Ward given a shot, as he's the only unknown performer. He may turn out to be our version of Burnley's Nick Pope.

I just don't see what Karius has to offer - there's no hint of a great keeper within nearly ready to burst out and flourish.
Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by Tes on January 15, 2018, 09:22:38 PM »
I watched as much of him as I could in the Euros, as it was just before then we were first linked. He blow hot and cold.
I haven't seen much of him since and his goals/assists haven't moved on hugely. Then again, stats are no recommenders of real talent, or what a player could be capable of in the right environment.

One thing that's becoming so clear is that Klopp only buys a piece of the jigsaw. He doesn't want any one piece to be the bulk of the picture, but 'a part'. The collective will always produce more than any one individual ever could.
Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by Tes on January 15, 2018, 09:14:44 PM »
Bi-polar FC.

It's the new Liverpool 4 - 3 Newcastle.

Gomez has a real problem with direction and flight of ball, and at what point in it's flight (journey) is the point at which it needs to be attacked, and make sure you are there to do it.

The Sane goal was Karius re-living Dudek's nightmare's against Forlan.

All our finishes were sublime. City's 2nd and 3rd was how it must be like as a human to play against a bar-football machine team.

Ox is finding his feet more with each game and is starting to jog memories of what he was thought to be when he first left Southampton.

Our title tilt this year has to be beating the Mancs and Chelsea to 2nd, and the Mancs in the FA Cup final.
I was going to say beating the Bitters in the final or claiming the Arsenal Cup off them, but then neither of those things are possible.  ;D

It's funny how sometimes a team loses who is regarded as their 'best' player, but then it allows others to 'grow' and fill the 'hole'. Hopefully that's going to happen for us, especially where Ox and Bobby are concerned.
Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by the dude abides on January 15, 2018, 05:36:43 PM »
Liverpool 4 City 3

fantastic result.

though we got to see the best of Liverpool and the worst of Liverpool.

if Klopp knew a damn thing about defending/balance, he would be the best in the business.

even at 4-3, in injury time, rather than send Milner and his pals into the corner to hold the ball up, he is encouraging them forward.   :o :o :o :o :o

was surprised to see Klarius start.....and as I predicted to friends here, he would make a mess-up.  Mind you, depsite SKy not mentioning it, Gomez also was woeful......again he loses diagonal balls mid-flight.  A bit of a problem if you're a defender.

But great result....9 minutes of fantastic closing down/pressing/counter attacking.  Wolrd class goals from Firminho and Salah.....and Mane's and the Ox's were darn good too!

Phil who?    Ringo has left.  The fab three march on to greater glories!

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by the dude abides on January 15, 2018, 05:26:07 PM »
Reports in Portugal today suggest Liverpool are looking closely at Sporting Lisbon's 22-year-old winger, Gelson Martins. He has a release clause of €60million, but we are looking to pay just half of that amount.....and are willing to offer his a wage fives times what he earns now.

Apparently Martins was a Liverpool transfer target in the summer and at one stage looked to be an alternative to Salah when negotiations with Roma hit a roadblock.

It now appears as though the Portuguese winger wasn’t an alternative to the Egyptian forward but was actually targeted to supplement his arrival.

He has electric pace and a big shot.
Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by Tes on January 08, 2018, 11:10:54 PM »
If there's once transfer that will both highlight the madness of the market and the total dearth of centre halves, it will be if Jonny Evans leaves WBA for either Chelsea or Arsenal, for anything over £10M, probably closer to £30M.

Where was the clamour for his signature when Van Gaal sold him for £6M 2 Summers ago?

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by Tes on January 08, 2018, 07:02:00 AM »
It will work in our favour if Monaco won't sell Lemar in January.

He's not reached the heights he did last season. I realise he lost a fair few team mates in the Summer, but Monaco are still 2nd in the French league, so they've hardly crumbled.

Losing the likes of M'Bappe should see someone like Lemar step forward and take centre stage in his absence. Truly class players do that.

By waiting until the Summer, we could save ourselves wasting an awful lot of money.

Draxler is the one we should be aiming for. He's a more rounded player, able to play wide or centrally equally as affectively, and he's at the point in his career to take the big step up like Coutinho did over the last 18 months.
His chances of doing that at PSG are limited.

We could also take Kevin Trapp off PSG on loan until the end of the season, as he's a definite step up from Mignolet and Karius, or maybe take advantage of Stoke being managerless and put a bid in for Jack Butland, and see if something shakes loose there.
Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by Tes on January 08, 2018, 06:47:34 AM »

Emre Can to stay at Liverpool in January but 'very close' to signing Juventus deal


Juventus boss Massimiliano Allegri admitted last week that he's a big fan of the German midfielder.

"We're all aware of Emre Can's qualities," he said.

Care to enlighten us as to what they are because he keeps them well hidden when he's wearing a red shirt.
Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: January Transfer Window 2018
« Last post by the dude abides on January 07, 2018, 07:15:35 PM »
I think Klopp understands that you don't necessarily replace 'certain' players, you replace or improve on 'their effect'.

Only when Coutinho didn't play in the front three does our midfield have real 'creativity', especially if Lallana is missing. Even then, it's been more a front four rather than Coutinho really playing in midfield.

Improving the pace, dynamism and 'real' creativity (Lallana aside) of our midfield (Can, Hendo, Wijnaldum) would help hugely.

Mane now gets the chance to play most games and rediscover his top form, and as Lallana's fitness and match touch comes back, we have two things to help fill the gap in a slightly different way.
Oxlade-Chamberlain is gradually have more impact, and as that develops, it will bring something additional.

Coutinho's a pretty unique player, hence Barca wanting him above others. We can adapt and develop, rather than try to replicate. After all, how many trophies did the 'collective' win with Coutinho in it?

that final point, is something that I have been thinking about too.

How often has Phil ever even looked like leading us to a league title, or a cup.

Suarez was the guy who nearly hauled us to the title a few years back.  But Phil has never been in that class.

I will always remember him scoring a great dinked goal at Old Trafford the other season, to put the UEFA Cup two-legged tie to bed just before half time.  That will be my favourite moment of Phil's......as well as his great free-kicks.

As you say, it's not a case of replacing like-with-like.  Every player brings their own attributes and personality to a team. 

Like you, I would like to see creativity added to our midfield.  And also a holding midfielder too, to protect the defence......not forgetting a new keeper.

Liverpool FC, football, sport / Re: Season 2017/18
« Last post by the dude abides on January 07, 2018, 06:28:10 PM »
apart from woeful commentators (endless meaningless data and drivel), I rarely ever get pissed at coverage of a game.  But I found the BBC's coverage of this game as cringeworthy (as you refer to it).

As a public broadcaster, the BBC was well below par.  I am surprised that there has not been a lot of complaints.

I don't understand why the likes of Holgate and Rooney get an easy ride from punditry team, while Firminhio (and in many other games, Lovren) and our lads get crucified. 

I am a big believer in equality.  And I think we need to see highly paid broadcasters confronted. 

The half-time (and full-time) allegations against the Brazilian were out of order.  And the dig at the scouser on benefits was beyond contempt.  If the same was said about a foreign citizen, or a person of colour, the pundit would be finished.   I thought Murphy was better than that. 

That little punditry group are far too smug and casual.   They are far too cosy and familiar with their surroundings.  I'd break it up and bring in fresh faces.

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